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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Look at this list of Scouts inc top 32. Is there a player in the top 20 you wouldn't want? I think we'll get a stud at 16 and the options are endless. Even if you back out DE, it ...

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Old 04-19-2005, 09:02 AM   #1
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Can't miss at 16, can we?

Look at this list of Scouts inc top 32.
Is there a player in the top 20 you wouldn't want?
I think we'll get a stud at 16 and the options are endless. Even if you back out DE, it still leaves a great group for us to chose from at 16.
Actually I think we could trade down to the 20's and simply pull a name out of a hat and still land a good player. No wonder so mant teams want to trade down. No way we could screw this up, eh?
This is a good year to have multiple 1st day picks. I wouldn't be surprised to see a record number of draft day trades, for both picks and current players.

1. Braylon Edwards WR SR Michigan 1
2. Ronnie Brown RB SR Auburn 2
3. Mike Williams WR JR USC 3
4. Aaron Rodgers QB JR Cal-Berkeley 4
5. Alex Smith QB JR Utah 5
6. Antrel Rolle DC SR Miami-Fla. 6
7. Carnell Williams RB SR Auburn 7
8. Adam Jones DC JR West Virginia 8
9. Derrick Johnson OLB SR Texas 9
10. Cedric Benson RB SR Texas 12
11. Shawne Merriman DE JR Maryland 10
12. Carlos Rogers DC SR Auburn 11
13. Alex Barron OT SR Florida State 13
14. Troy Williamson WR JR South Carolina 14
15. David Pollack DE SR Georgia 16
16. Marcus Spears DE SR LSU 17
17. Travis Johnson DT SR Florida State 18
18. Erasmus James DE SR Wisconsin 18
19. Mark Clayton WR SR Oklahoma 19
20. DeMarcus Ware DE SR Troy 24
21. Thomas Davis DS JR Georgia 22
22. Dan Cody DE SR Oklahoma 20
23. Shaun Cody DT SR USC 21
24. Jammal Brown OT SR Oklahoma 27
25. Heath Miller TE JR Virginia 25
26. Khalif Barnes OT SR Washington 25
27. Marlin Jackson DC SR Michigan 26
28. Roddy White WR SR UAB NR
29. Matt Roth DE SR Iowa 28
30. Fabian Washington DC JR Nebraska 29
31. Brodney Pool DS JR Oklahoma NR
32. Jason Campbell QB SR Auburn NR
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:06 AM   #2
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Can't miss at 16, can we?

Did you steal that list from my other thread? Thief. lol

I\'ll give you some misses for us though in the top 20. Cadillac or Benson, but they don\'t really count since we have no shot or need for them, unless they fall to 16 and someone wants to trade us a starting LB for one. And Pollack. No way on him. Also James, Ware, and Clayton. No, no, and no. So we CAN miss, hopefully we won\'t.
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See, my rationale is just like yours in most cases. However this year I just can\'t agree. When so many teams are looking to trade out of the top 10 and so few teams are looking to trade INTO the top 10, I think it\'s the time to pull the trigger to trade up, ESPECIALLY when we are coveting DJ. We can probably trade into the top 10 cheaper this year than we could for any other year.

I don\'t take what Jarrod Breaux said totally for the truth, but he does raise an interesting point. We have been movers and shakers ever since Haz and Loomy took over. I would be willing to bet my left kidney that we don\'t stay at 16, and it\'ll be a trade to get DJ or Antrel Rolle.
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:38 AM   #4
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I\'m with that line of thinking GT. Also, watching the ESPN two hour draft special yesterday, they also noted this may be the first year trade ups may not go exactly by the draft value chart. Just cause people say there is no clear cut #1 in the draft, doesn\'t mean there isn\'t a clear cut #1 for us. DJ or Rolle are those guys. We maybe able to bilk someone into lettign us get them this year. This is an almost perfect draft for us in that noone knows who the best guy is.
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The list looks good at first -- but let us look at only our most pressing needs (and I am removing those at DE which I do not think could make it at DT

1. Antrel Rolle DC SR Miami-Fla. 6
2. Adam Jones DC JR West Virginia 8
3. Derrick Johnson OLB SR Texas 9
4. Shawne Merriman DE JR Maryland 10
5. Carlos Rogers DC SR Auburn 11
6. Alex Barron OT SR Florida State 13
7. Marcus Spears DE SR LSU 17
8. Travis Johnson DT SR Florida State 18
9. Thomas Davis DS JR Georgia 22
10. Dan Cody DE SR Oklahoma 20
11. Shaun Cody DT SR USC 21
12. Jammal Brown OT SR Oklahoma 27
13. Khalif Barnes OT SR Washington 25
14. Marlin Jackson DC SR Michigan 26
15. Fabian Washington DC JR Nebraska 29
16. Brodney Pool DS JR Oklahoma NR

Now which ones probably will be there at 16 -- Maybe T. Johnson, Davis -- I think both are good picks but is this what we need -- Davis is a safety -- can he play linebacker -- who knows -- Johnson is suited for for a 3-4 can play DE or linebacker but we really need a DT --- I\'d take an OT but would prefer alinebacker -- so I am in complete agreement that we shuld move up and take Mr Texas

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Old 04-19-2005, 09:55 AM   #6
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Exactly whodi.

I would say that if we were able to get into Tenn\'s #6 for sure, then we have to do it. It\'s guaranteed that either DJ, Rolle, or Mike Williams will be in that spot, most likely two out of the three. Wouldn\'t you say that all of these guys are worth the trade?????
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Looking at the Tenn draft scenario it looks like they would like all the picks they can get, They have a boat load already! I think a trade, if we can deal Howard will happen with them. Here\'s an article stating their unique situation and all their picks.

It\'s form ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2037991
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Now which ones probably will be there at 16 -- Maybe T. Johnson, Davis -- I think both are good picks but is this what we need -- Davis is a safety -- can he play linebacker -- who knows -- Johnson is suited for for a 3-4 can play DE or linebacker but we really need a DT --- I\'d take an OT but would prefer alinebacker -- so I am in complete agreement that we shuld move up and take Mr Texas
johnson can play linebacker? he\'s a DT...

but taking a DT in the first is a bad Idea IMO..but one that we probably will do.
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I am telling you right now GT if those three guys are available, I would not be mad about taking any of them. Williams would be the future at WR and could start day one. Rolle and DJ, well, nuff said there. We have to do something like this if we want a guy who will contribute this year, as it was stated. But I am willing to forego taking defense for Mike Williams. I would not be mad at all were we to draft him. I know some would, but not me. That guy is a beast.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:34 AM   #10
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Can't miss at 16, can we?

I agree whodi...we shouldn\'t miss, but we still can. No De\'s,Wr\'s, or RB\'s
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