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jeanpierre 06-18-2018 08:07 PM
Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 

jeanpierre 06-19-2018 09:12 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick...

One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia...

Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts...

Rugby Saint II 06-20-2018 02:39 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 804476)
The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick...

One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia...

Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts...
I was thinking the same thing jp. When he left New Orleans he finally got some good coaching and he dedicated himself to get better and he did. Now he's back and we want to change his responsibilities........this reminds me of early last year running KV as a two high safety. It failed because it wasn't his strength. I hope we don't repeat that same mistake again.:rolleyes:

K Major 06-20-2018 02:45 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year.

I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet.

jeanpierre 06-20-2018 02:51 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 804569)
On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year.

I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet.
"It's very aggressive, more on the man-to-man side," Robinson said. "I would say this past year, it was more of a zone defense when I was in Philly. Here, it's more aggressive, more blitzing, more of a man-to-man type defense. I'm still trying to get used to it." - Patrick Robinson, as quoted in the article...

K Major 06-20-2018 03:10 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX :smokin:.

AsylumGuido 06-20-2018 03:51 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 804573)
^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX :smokin:.
Not sure why Rez hasn't been around here. I see him pretty much every day on FB.

neugey 06-20-2018 05:45 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p

https://www.maxim.com/.image/t_share...kelbackjpg.jpg

jeanpierre 06-20-2018 06:01 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 804578)
It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p
OMG, it's the same song over and over for Pete's sake!!!

jeanpierre 06-20-2018 06:04 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 804573)
^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX :smokin:.
Just clarifying that this wasn't some idle spin by a sports writer, but an actual statement made by the first party, Patrick Robinson on what's to be different...

rezburna 06-20-2018 08:45 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
He’ll be fine. For one, he comes up and tackles. That’s important in the slot. Also, he’s a lot better at getting his head around so he can make a play on the ball. He’s not the same guy he was when he left us. We may run a lot of man, but zone concepts will be involved as well. I really like him in the slot while we’re in a Cover 2. He’s good at following the eyes of the QB.

K Major 06-21-2018 07:51 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 804586)
He’ll be fine. For one, he comes up and tackles. That’s important in the slot. Also, he’s a lot better at getting his head around so he can make a play on the ball. He’s not the same guy he was when he left us. .
Agreed.

Thanks for chiming in Rez. I know you understand the position better than most so appreciate the insight.

Rugby Saint II 06-23-2018 11:17 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
I can't believe that we could have three top tier corner backs on the field at the same time. P Rob should help alleviate our 3rd down struggles while Lattimore and Crawley blanket their receivers. It's going to be hard to throw against the Saints this year I do believe!

rezburna 06-23-2018 01:20 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
Davenport coming off the other edge of Jordan and Rankins in his 3rd year pushing the middle is going to do wonders for a secondary that’s already REALLY good and trending upward.

jeanpierre 06-24-2018 05:40 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
Crawley through four or five games to start the season, was the No. 1 rated CB in the league - the entire league...

Lattimore was an instant success as all early first round picks should be (ahem, Sheldon Rankins)...

Where it wasn't getting done was the slot - and that's now been addressed with bring back Patrick Robinson...

If the interior Pass Rush can help the one-man wrecking krewe that was Cam Jordan, we may see teams score 13 pts or less on us on a regular basis...

darksoul35 06-25-2018 07:37 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
Did he say if he listened to us we would get him high?

K Major 07-03-2018 09:40 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 804728)
Crawley through four or five games to start the season, was the No. 1 rated CB in the league - the entire league...
This ^^^^^ is confidence building and impressive on Crawley. Especially considering the level of competition he had to face @ QB.

Bradford - wk 1
Tom Brady - wk 2
Fig Newton - wk 3
Cutler - wk 4
Highland Park (Stafford) wk - 5

IMO Ken has solidified himself as a very respectful solid #2 corner at the elite level. Jabari Greer 2.0?? Not bad for an undrafted guy coming out of college.

Keep grinding.

jeanpierre 07-03-2018 12:25 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
With the signing of Patrick Robinson, will be curious to see how this percentage might change...

QBREES9 07-07-2018 12:08 AM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
Your home. Make a big Impact.

jeanpierre 07-07-2018 01:50 PM
Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense
 
Wonder if Payton is looking at Jamerson to be that third slot/corner/safety?

jeanpierre 07-16-2018 06:06 PM
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jeanpierre 07-20-2018 11:16 PM
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jeanpierre 07-20-2018 11:16 PM
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