Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense

06-18-2018, 09:07 PM

jeanpierre · 06-19-2018, 10:12 AM

The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick...

One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia...

Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts...

Rugby Saint II · 06-20-2018, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick...

One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia...

Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts...

I was thinking the same thing jp. When he left New Orleans he finally got some good coaching and he dedicated himself to get better and he did. Now he's back and we want to change his responsibilities........this reminds me of early last year running KV as a two high safety. It failed because it wasn't his strength. I hope we don't repeat that same mistake again.

K Major · 06-20-2018, 03:45 PM

On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year.

I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet.

jeanpierre · 06-20-2018, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year.

I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet.

"It's very aggressive, more on the man-to-man side," Robinson said. "I would say this past year, it was more of a zone defense when I was in Philly. Here, it's more aggressive, more blitzing, more of a man-to-man type defense. I'm still trying to get used to it." - Patrick Robinson, as quoted in the article...

K Major · 06-20-2018, 04:10 PM

^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX

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AsylumGuido · 06-20-2018, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX .

Not sure why Rez hasn't been around here. I see him pretty much every day on FB.

neugey · 06-20-2018, 06:45 PM

It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p

jeanpierre · 06-20-2018, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p

OMG, it's the same song over and over for Pete's sake!!!

jeanpierre · 06-20-2018, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost.

Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez??

Again .. it's June. RELAX .

Just clarifying that this wasn't some idle spin by a sports writer, but an actual statement made by the first party, Patrick Robinson on what's to be different...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick... One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia... Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts... mleg1972, Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre The slot is where most teams did their passing damage to our defense. In theory, signing PRob should fix this; plus, I like the idea of reclaiming a lost pick... One foreseeable problem per the article, Patrick Robinson revealed Dennis Allen has asked him to do more man-to-man than zone as he'd done in Philadelphia... Once again, asking a guy to change what he does well raises the eyebrow at the least; so we'll have to temper expectations while Robinson hopefully adjusts... I was thinking the same thing jp. When he left New Orleans he finally got some good coaching and he dedicated himself to get better and he did. Now he's back and we want to change his responsibilities........this reminds me of early last year running KV as a two high safety. It failed because it wasn't his strength. I hope we don't repeat that same mistake again.

06-20-2018, 03:45 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year. I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet.

06-20-2018, 03:51 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense Originally Posted by K Major On the flip side, PRob is a slot corner. Something we lacked big time last season. D Allen is a smart man and no fool. Better believe Dennis & A Glenn will play the man to his strengths to make him successful like he was in Philly last year. I'm not going to read too much into that Advocate article. Especially in mid June when we hadn't even hit camp yet. "It's very aggressive, more on the man-to-man side," Robinson said. "I would say this past year, it was more of a zone defense when I was in Philly. Here, it's more aggressive, more blitzing, more of a man-to-man type defense. I'm still trying to get used to it." - Patrick Robinson, as quoted in the article...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense ^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost. Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez?? Again .. it's June. RELAX .

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense Originally Posted by K Major ^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost. Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez?? Again .. it's June. RELAX . Not sure why Rez hasn't been around here. I see him pretty much every day on FB.

06-20-2018, 06:45 PM	#8
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense Originally Posted by neugey It's been several years and I still haven't been able to adjust to Nickelback :-p OMG, it's the same song over and over for Pete's sake!!! neugey likes this.

06-20-2018, 07:04 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Back in New Orleans again, Patrick Robinson adjusting to nickel role in more aggressive Saints defense Originally Posted by K Major ^^^^^ PRob played man in Philly & also a lot of zone ... with a lot of man concepts. Same could be said here in New Orleans. He has ability to "man up" if required. According to PFF (if you believe in stats), his best year was under Williams scheme (in a lot ways closer to Dennis Allen scheme). When Spaggs came, it went down hill and then on top of that he was injured & confidence was lost. Saints coaches liked what they saw in PRob & there was plenty of tape on him in man last season. I don't think he' be here if he wasn't capable. Where's Rez?? Again .. it's June. RELAX . Just clarifying that this wasn't some idle spin by a sports writer, but an actual statement made by the first party, Patrick Robinson on what's to be different...

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