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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by st thomas Seems to me that coming from behind is our forte the Minnesota miracle killed another Super Bowl but we were at our best in that season . Dam we struggled to win playoff with eagles ...

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Old 04-16-2019, 10:05 PM   #61
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Seems to me that coming from behind is our forte the Minnesota miracle killed another Super Bowl but we were at our best in that season . Dam we struggled to win playoff with eagles and the of coarse the rams could not but them away
I don't think last year was our best year. They were not the same team after the Dallas game in week 11. Something went horribly wrong for the offense and they never got their mojo working again. We peaked in November and came crashing down hard.

Sometime this summer, I am going to go back and re-watch every game of the season and break it down. The final month stretch is what I'm most interested in analyzing, as I want to try and figure out what exactly went wrong.

If there is one season I feel bitter about, it's the 2012 season. A strange choice, but there is a reason. We still averaged 28 points a game, which in 2012 was great numbers for an offense before recent scoring inflation. Brees had one of his best years despite having a higher INT percentage and without Sean Payton's guiding hand.

2012 truly felt like we were being punished by divine powers at hand making sure to screw us AND we had to deal with what would become (at the time) one of the most statistical worst defenses in NFL history. The worst game that year was the Chiefs game we blew the big lead and the replacement refs were giving us the most head-scratching penalties and ignoring the blatant holding that led to the huge run play on us that sparked their comeback. I can't remember and am too lazy to look it up right now, but I believe K.C. went 2-14 that year and their win against us was their most controversial, but prevented them from a winless season early on.

Other bad memories of 2012 -

Redskins - The RGIII game, season opener at home and we get embarrassed. There was a lot of bad calls in this game, but we got absolutely torched on defense. This was the first game to tell us that the floor was falling out on the defense and yet it was a master performance by Brees to rally a comeback and end the day with giant stats. Beyond all this, we knew the die had been cast and we were the NFL's most hated team. RGIII's big day was celebrated for that reason.

Packers - Brees outplayed Rodgers and we even got a call to help us at the end of the game, only for Hartley to miss the field goal. This was also a 10+ point comeback. This is the loss that stung the most for me, cause Brees went into Lambeau and showed the "best quarterback in the NFL" who's the damn boss.

Broncos - All I remember from this game was that our offense did nothing and Peyton Manning spent the entire day picking on the weakest links in our secondary (one of them was Patrick Robinson). I could not stomach this game, cause leading up to it, all you heard about was Bountygate and here was one of the NFL's best QBs just destroying our bad defense at the joy of the whole nation.

Falcons - Brees' TD streak ends after a TD is called back and this is the game he had 5 INTs in.

Giants - Going into this game, we were riding a streak of humiliating the Giants with blowout losses. They seemed to be motivated to stick it to us that day by not only beating us down, but by also running the score up like we were accused of doing to them in 2009 and 2011 It was a shoot out early but became an ugly loss.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:19 PM   #62
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I don't think last year was our best year. They were not the same team after the Dallas game in week 11. Something went horribly wrong for the offense and they never got their mojo working again. We peaked in November and came crashing down hard.



Sometime this summer, I am going to go back and re-watch every game of the season and break it down. The final month stretch is what I'm most interested in analyzing, as I want to try and figure out what exactly went wrong.



If there is one season I feel bitter about, it's the 2012 season. A strange choice, but there is a reason. We still averaged 28 points a game, which in 2012 was great numbers for an offense before recent scoring inflation. Brees had one of his best years despite having a higher INT percentage and without Sean Payton's guiding hand.



2012 truly felt like we were being punished by divine powers at hand making sure to screw us AND we had to deal with what would become (at the time) one of the most statistical worst defenses in NFL history. The worst game that year was the Chiefs game we blew the big lead and the replacement refs were giving us the most head-scratching penalties and ignoring the blatant holding that led to the huge run play on us that sparked their comeback. I can't remember and am too lazy to look it up right now, but I believe K.C. went 2-14 that year and their win against us was their most controversial, but prevented them from a winless season early on.



Other bad memories of 2012 -



Redskins - The RGIII game, season opener at home and we get embarrassed. There was a lot of bad calls in this game, but we got absolutely torched on defense. This was the first game to tell us that the floor was falling out on the defense and yet it was a master performance by Brees to rally a comeback and end the day with giant stats. Beyond all this, we knew the die had been cast and we were the NFL's most hated team. RGIII's big day was celebrated for that reason.



Packers - Brees outplayed Rodgers and we even got a call to help us at the end of the game, only for Hartley to miss the field goal. This was also a 10+ point comeback. This is the loss that stung the most for me, cause Brees went into Lambeau and showed the "best quarterback in the NFL" who's the damn boss.



Broncos - All I remember from this game was that our offense did nothing and Peyton Manning spent the entire day picking on the weakest links in our secondary (one of them was Patrick Robinson). I could not stomach this game, cause leading up to it, all you heard about was Bountygate and here was one of the NFL's best QBs just destroying our bad defense at the joy of the whole nation.



Falcons - Brees' TD streak ends after a TD is called back and this is the game he had 5 INTs in.



Giants - Going into this game, we were riding a streak of humiliating the Giants with blowout losses. They seemed to be motivated to stick it to us that day by not only beating us down, but by also running the score up like we were accused of doing to them in 2009 and 2011 It was a shoot out early but became an ugly loss.


Nice analogy . Something went wrong was it the falcons game when drew gave his body up to blow up the pick off play that was a clear interference penalty. His arm went to pots after that I believe he thru the weak int against the cowboys that was so suspect. Just saying playing with cracked ribs possibly?
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:40 PM   #63
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We are just an inconsistent team unfortunately.

2018 offense literally ran out of gas. After the Dallas game, the offense was never the same.

Whilst our D only got better, the offense just became more and more stagnant. I liked Ingram but he did what he does in big time games - he disappeared for the 2nd year in a row.

Teams dared us to beat them whilst they focused on Kamara and Thomas, which we couldn't do.

Like it or not - regardless of the non PI call, the offense had a ton of opportunities to put the game away and we stalled on multiple consecutive drives.
100% agree with you. Your assessment of the offensive struggles is in line with what I believe. I honestly think Payton knew there was a problem and that's why he tried to kick the tires at washed up WRs no one wanted (Dez Bryant, Brandon Marshall). He knew there was an obvious problem and did try to fix it. He is trying to fix it now by bringing in Jared Cook. Brees hasn't had a reliable TE in some time now, but that may change for the better soon.

My main concern right now is that the team seems to be allowing the non-call to define that loss and the end of the season. It's all we ever hear about. Don't know if we can really discuss what went wrong in that game (or the final month of the season) cause all you ever hear about is the non-call. I truly hope they can put this in the past and move on come August.

The NFC title game went eerily similar to the Steelers game. In that game, we also blew a 10 point lead and the offense went from dominating (first half) to punting constantly (second half). The defense ultimately bailed us out that day with a master performance, and yet we still needed a big PI call on the final drive to get that last TD and the lead. Like the Rams game, we had several opportunities to drop the hammer and blow Pittsburgh out, but the offense went cold in the second half.

I've been discussing the Eagles playoff game on another site with a few guys into stats and both of them said the same thing - the Saints dominated Philly for 3 quarters and yet barely mustered 20 points on the board. Looking at the stats and positive net yardage of big plays after the 1st quarter, it would look like we routed Philly, but we didn't. They had a chance to beat us in the end. One of my friends I'm discussing with believes Payton called a bad game by coming out and immediately going pass heavy and not bothering running when Brees was obviously struggling. Had it not been for the defense, the game could've got ugly quick.
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Nice analogy . Something went wrong was it the falcons game when drew gave his body up to blow up the pick off play that was a clear interference penalty. His arm went to pots after that I believe he thru the weak int against the cowboys that was so suspect. Just saying playing with cracked ribs possibly?
Good point here about Brees' struggles at the end of 2012.

I suspected he may have been injured.

INT aside, that Dallas shoot out was one of my favorite games. That was an exciting day with my wife and her brother. Neither of them are Saints fans since they are both from the mid west and since we were out of playoff contention, the three of us just wanted to watch an entertaining game and enjoy our sunday together.
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It's 2019 - new season, new team.
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Good point here about Brees' struggles at the end of 2012.



I suspected he may have been injured.



INT aside, that Dallas shoot out was one of my favorite games. That was an exciting day with my wife and her brother. Neither of them are Saints fans since they are both from the mid west and since we were out of playoff contention, the three of us just wanted to watch an entertaining game and enjoy our sunday together.


Yes Cha Ching. I remember the 11 season which I believe was the best team ever and Greg Williams defense went south against San Fran but I were yakking about last season when brees just looked bad against Dallas right after Atlanta game in which he got hammered on the pick off trying to make tackle. And I believe and still do the the 2018 team was better over all than the 2011 squad.
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Saints play Rams in Wk. 2, Falcons on Thanksgiving as schedule begins to leak

Rams week 2 and Falcons primetime on Thanksgiving Day!
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2 high profile games to start the season. We need week 1 and 2 wins bad!
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