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saintz08 07-28-2005 11:28 AM

McPherson signs deal with Saints
 
McPherson signs deal with Saints

Southeast product inks three-year, $1 million contract

ROGER MOONEY

Herald Staff Writer


Adrian McPherson agreed to a three-year contract with the New Orleans Saints late Wednesday evening, according to his agent Leigh Steinberg.

The deal, which will be finalized today, is worth $1.05 million and came with a $125,775 signing bonus.

McPherson, who could not be reached for comment, will report to the Saints preseason camp today in Metaire, La. The first workout is scheduled for Friday.

"It was critical that he be in camp on time," Steinberg said. "The repetitions for a non-starting quarterback comes early in training camp."

The 22-year-old McPherson, who played at Southeast High, Florida State and with the defunct Indiana Firebirds of the Arena Football League, was taken in the fifth round by the Saints in April's NFL Draft. He will work behind starter Aaron Brooks, backup Todd Bouman and Kliff Kingsbury.

Steinberg reiterated his stance that the 6-foot-5, 220-pound McPherson was "the best quarterback in the draft," who slid to the fifth round because of his lack of college experience and because of the off field issues that led to his dismissal from the Florida State program in November of 2002.

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saintz08 07-28-2005 11:29 AM

RE: McPherson signs deal with Saints
 
Not getting why they did not ink him to a longer contract .....

saintfan 07-28-2005 11:33 AM

So they can come back in a year or two for a bigger better deal.

I'm amazed 08. This one is ripe for one of your conspiracy theories. Clearly you're slippin' in your old age. ;)

saintswhodi 07-28-2005 11:35 AM

In the article I shared in the sign draftees thread it said his agent, Steinberg, feels he is not the typical 5th rounder so he wanted a shorter deal cause he feels in that time A-Mac will be able to far outplay this one, and thus be able to command more money, and not be like most draft picks who sign long term deals but outplaytheir contracts, then have to fight for more money. But not in so many words.

saintz08 07-28-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

In the article I shared in the sign draftees thread it said his agent, Steinberg, feels he is not the typical 5th rounder so he wanted a shorter deal cause he feels in that time A-Mac will be able to far outplay this one
Got the whole want a shorter deal desire .

The point is that if he is the second coming of Peyton Manning and the Saints would want to retain the rights to him , if they inked him to a 5 year deal and he started in 2 years and wanted to renegotiate the contract , they have the collar on him for 5 years . It is a better bargaining position on a rookie if the Saints hold the rights for 5 years .

saintz08 07-28-2005 12:24 PM

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I'm amazed 08. This one is ripe for one of your conspiracy theories. Clearly you're slippin' in your old age.
Saintfan , You still selling those great little thin mint cookies ????

saintswhodi 07-28-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saintz08
Quote:

In the article I shared in the sign draftees thread it said his agent, Steinberg, feels he is not the typical 5th rounder so he wanted a shorter deal cause he feels in that time A-Mac will be able to far outplay this one
Got the whole want a shorter deal desire .

The point is that if he is the second coming of Peyton Manning and the Saints would want to retain the rights to him , if they inked him to a 5 year deal and he started in 2 years and wanted to renegotiate the contract , they have the collar on him for 5 years . It is a better bargaining position on a rookie if the Saints hold the rights for 5 years .

If we signed him that long, all it would do is increase his chances of holding out if he was that good, and we stuck to our "you were a 5th round pick" thing. I think this way is better for both sides.

BlackandBlue 07-28-2005 01:20 PM

You two know better.

spkb25 07-28-2005 02:13 PM

saintswhodi i also agree that this is a good deal for both sides. i can see why his agent didn't want him locked in to long and for the saints if he does become the starter in two years you can renegotiate at that point

saintz08 07-28-2005 08:17 PM

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If we signed him that long, all it would do is increase his chances of holding out if he was that good, and we stuck to our "you were a 5th round pick" thing. I think this way is better for both sides.
Horse poo

You can always renegotiate a longer contract .

You can always trade a player if he wants too much if you have the rights , Kyle Turley immediately comes to mind .

Now the Saints have to get him in as a starter by year 2 to renegotiate by year 3 or he will hit the open market and fly bye bye .

A back loaded 5 yr contract , would have given the Saints the time to groom him and option to renegotiate in years 3 or 4 . This is a player with a ton of junk in the trunk and Loomis should have had position to put the Saints on the sweet end of a deal .

WHODATNJ 07-28-2005 08:21 PM

I realy like the idea of keeping Amac on his toes. No free ride here. I believe the front office did realy well with this transaction. You want the money? Behave yourself and prove to our org. that you deserve more money.

AllSaints 07-28-2005 10:25 PM

kewl i like it

RockyMountainSaint 07-29-2005 05:16 AM

The Times Picayune-
McPherson and the Saints agreed to a three-year, $1.05 million deal with a $125,775 signing bonus, according to McPherson's agent, Leigh Steinberg. The deal is comparable to those signed by other fifth-round picks, but Steinberg believes McPherson, a quarterback who played for Indiana in the Arena Football League last season, will prove he's not the typical fifth-round pick. As a result, Steinberg wanted to keep the deal at no more than three years.
"We felt he was the best quarterback in the draft when we agreed to represent him," Steinberg said. "But because of circumstances, he was drafted in the fifth round, which is good fortune for the Saints."

Duh!
If they really believe he was the most talented QB then it makes sense to keep the deal short.
It also makes sense for the Saints.
If he performs then pay him.
If he is the bad character guy that some are making him out to be then cut him.

The end of this season should provide us fans with an answer.

AB or AM

The problem is.........

When have we gotten realistic responses to obvious problems within this organization?

I still see Haz.
I still smell Venturi.
Wait!

I Gotta Have Faith!

saintswhodi 07-29-2005 08:37 AM

I was gonna respond 08, but I agreed with RMS' assessment. It was a good idea to keep it short. You don't usually backload rookie contracts. That is reserved for vets who maynever see the end of that deal. And backloaded contracts ususlly come with generous bonuses. But I haven't heard of too many, if any, backloaded contracts for rookies cause theyare just too unpredictable. So the short term deal was the best option.

WhoDat 07-29-2005 09:11 AM

Why didn't they sign him to a longer deal???

They can't. CBA boys.

1st round picks sign 5 year deals. 2nd round picks sign 4 year deals. All others sign 3 year rookie contracts. :) Of course, a player can always whine and cry and holdout to get top 5 money any time he chooses. LOL

The Saints would be real dumb to sign AMac to a deal longer than 3 years. Despite what some people on this site may say about him, he is still a very talented and very inexperienced and troubled young QB who was a gamble even in the 5th round.

Euphoria 07-29-2005 12:13 PM

CBA is the correct answer...

AllSaints 07-29-2005 12:24 PM

I Gotta Have Faith![/quote]


Exactly !

ScottyRo 07-29-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat
Why didn't they sign him to a longer deal???

They can't. CBA boys.

1st round picks sign 5 year deals. 2nd round picks sign 4 year deals. All others sign 3 year rookie contracts. :)
Of course, a player can always whine and cry and holdout to get top 5 money any time he chooses. LOL

The Saints would be real dumb to sign AMac to a deal longer than 3 years. Despite what some people on this site may say about him, he is still a very talented and very inexperienced and troubled young QB who was a gamble even in the 5th round.

Um, yeah, hi...have the TPS reports gone to your head? What exact provision of the CBA are you referring to?

I'll give you a hint...none.

Quote:

Alex Smith, the first pick in April's draft, agreed to terms Monday on a six-year, $57 million deal
;)

ScottyRo 07-29-2005 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat
Why didn't they sign him to a longer deal???

They can't. CBA boys.

1st round picks sign 5 year deals. 2nd round picks sign 4 year deals. All others sign 3 year rookie contracts. :)
Of course, a player can always whine and cry and holdout to get top 5 money any time he chooses. LOL

The Saints would be real dumb to sign AMac to a deal longer than 3 years. Despite what some people on this site may say about him, he is still a very talented and very inexperienced and troubled young QB who was a gamble even in the 5th round.

Um, yeah, hi...have the TPS reports gone to your head? What exact provision of the CBA are you referring to?

I'll give you a hint...none.

Quote:

Alex Smith, the first pick in April's draft, agreed to terms Monday on a six-year, $57 million deal
;)

LordOfEntropy 07-29-2005 01:17 PM

I'm not aware of a provision in the CBA making contract lengths mandatory. Rather, I thought they were a kind of status quo, not a requirment.

In that light, I see the point of trying to lock the kid in longterm. There's no risk because he can still be cut at any time, regardless of contract. But assuming he did blossom into a star, then at least his rights would be tied to this franchise. There'd be no worries of him hitting the free agent market.

Of course, that is exactly what his agent does -NOT- want, so he'd never sign a longterm contract anyway.

But I can see the point of wanting to tie him to this organization longterm, just in case he did realize that (tremendous) potential.

WhoDat 07-29-2005 01:57 PM

I stand corrected....

You're right, it's not a CBA thing, but rather a general standard. Notice that Brown signed a 5 year deal (after I suggested this), Bullocks a 4 year deal, and everyone else 3 year deals. You guys are right though - it's not specifically in the language of the CBA... though I have heard (somewhere) that the reason for these time frames had something to do with the CBA, but I can't remember the rationale.

WhoDat 07-29-2005 01:59 PM

PS - Hey Scotty - just for that little comment, check your new title. LOL

LordOfEntropy 07-29-2005 02:12 PM

Scotty, that's one hellvua signature. I laughed out loud. I know my girlfriend's gonna be pissed when she hears this one... hahaha

saintz08 07-29-2005 07:36 PM

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Of course, that is exactly what his agent does -NOT- want, so he'd never sign a longterm contract anyway.
We are talking about a 5th round selection here .

He did not have teams clammoring to get him , he had a few interested teams . Damn , Clarrett went higher .

Loomis should have hard balled him and signed him to a five .He is a project quarterback and they will need time to develop him . If he goes NFLE he could draw attention early and that won't help the Saints position in renogiation .

TallySaint 08-01-2005 09:25 AM

I noticed his Saints jerseys are already in at the Tallahassee Mall....





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