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Old 08-08-2005, 07:37 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
And if he goes on to do great things in the NFL, we can't kick ourselves in the butt....we gave him 3 years.....in a league where the average career length is 4 years....how much time should u get????

No, actually he's had 2 years and 1 week of training camp. That's my point, you guys are wayyy ahead of yourselves. It seems like 3 years to ya'll.
oh i'm sorry....two years and one week of training camp, and he's a DT that probably wouldn't even be on the roster if he weren't a first round pick that we invested 2 picks on. Doesn't anyone else think it's a bit naive to think that he's gonna make some miraculous surge and start or even be a primary backup for us this season???

If we were to get rid of him this season...i would say try to trade him and get something for him.....a 5th rounder would be a STEAL at this point, but i would even take a 6th or 7th for him. That won't happen because every other team knows that he sucks(and knew that on draft day 2003 too). Other than that....put him on the IR list and get someone in here that wants to play.

It just seems like so many others on the team have come to camp with a good attitude and i actually feel better about the team than i have in a while....having sully around is simply counterproductive....and he would do more harm than good.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:19 PM   #12
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WhoDat, shut the **** up!

Oh, and picking up Kevin Williams doesn't seem like much of a disaster to me. Don't you mean it looked like a disaster then, but perfect now?
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:06 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
That won't happen because every other team knows that he sucks(and knew that on draft day 2003 too).

To be ticked-off, that's fine but you just ranting now. Spouting off ridiculous stuff, calm down guy...Sully at the time of his drafting had shot up the draft boards and not just the Saints. If you remember correctly the Saints leap-frogged Minnesota whom I know was about to take Sully, once the Saints did that Minnesota loss their minds and let the time expire for the 2nd straight year. And they just backhandedly picked Kevin Williams as a afterthought. It looks like a disaster now, but it looked perfect at the time.

Nobody who knew Sully then can believe he's even the same person.So applaude the team for the attempt, you just can't judge heart or a person mental state. All 32 teams have done it before.
Who's ticked off.....never said i was and i'm not. But i was ticked off when he was drafted since i thought we were about to pick Terrell Suggs. The better Suggs does and the worse Sully does just reinforces my feelings. I really didn't even know who he was.

What part of my statement was ridiculous? Does he not suck??? The draft day bit was just a low blow, but i doubt any team would take him in a trade. I think most everything i said has merit.

Anyway that's all the time i have for this....i just got madden and i'm wasting playing time right now.
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:58 AM   #14
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WhoDat, shut the **** up!
What?! Where did that come from?
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:02 PM   #15
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What?! Where did that come from?
I think he pulled that out of his burro , from the sight of his photo ....
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Old 08-09-2005, 10:44 PM   #16
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I read an article that talks about Sully beating Mayberry bad in practice and burying the RB in the backfield one play and then getting broken down like a girlscout by Bentley on the very next play. He is quite the enigma. A larda** with some talent that manifests itself every 5th play or so. I give him one more year just for the salary cap ramifications, but after that I would, how should I say this, divest myself of his presence.
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:54 PM   #17
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If you remember correctly the Saints leap-frogged Minnesota whom I know was about to take Sully, once the Saints did that Minnesota loss their minds and let the time expire for the 2nd straight year. And they just backhandedly picked Kevin Williams as a afterthought. It looks like a disaster now, but it looked perfect at the time.
That was Bouman's big mouth .
It caught Minnesota totally off guard and sent the war room into a panic in Minnesota .....
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