Worse than death?? PSU

neugey · 07-23-2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by papz

This move is very Goodell-ish.

Goodell today is probably saying "Sheeeooot. Vacating wins? Why didn't I think of that?"

Halo · 07-23-2012, 10:58 PM

Mardigras9 · 07-24-2012, 10:18 AM

I agree with all but the vacating the wins, even making the penalty more harse would be OK. Punish the school and the football program as a whole, but removing Joe-Pa from his win record seems harse against one individual. Could remove all wins from the post-season because that punishes the program more as a whole.

mutineer10 · 07-24-2012, 01:11 PM

As a matter of perspective (from Wikipedia):

"During the 2000 season, an assistant football coach in Memphis, Tennessee claimed that an Alabama booster had paid him $50,000 to encourage one of his players to sign with the Crimson Tide. Following the NCAA investigation, Alabama received a probation from 2002 to 2006, a two-year post-season ban (2002 and 2003), and the loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years. A secret witness was later revealed to be Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer.

On June 11, 2009, Alabama was sanctioned for textbook-related infractions involving 16 of 19 sports, including football. They were forced to vacate 21 wins from the 2005, 2006, and 2007 seasons and were put on three years probation, ending in June 2012. Alabama's appeal of the ruling was unsuccessful."

From Me:

Penn State didn't get it too bad for covering up YEARS of CHILD MOLESTING! Alabama got it nearly as bad for allegedly paying ONE player & for a couple of knuckleheads scamming textbooks.

sharke · 07-25-2012, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Just a note to all Penn State fans...

Originally Posted by Halo

Sean Bean, the founder of memes!

foreverfan · 07-25-2012, 08:53 AM

I bet this would have never happened in Greece.

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07-23-2012, 07:05 PM	#21
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,687 Blog Entries: 13	Originally Posted by papz This move is very Goodell-ish. Goodell today is probably saying "Sheeeooot. Vacating wins? Why didn't I think of that?" ScottF and SloMotion like this.

07-23-2012, 10:58 PM	#22
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sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by Halo Just a note to all Penn State fans... Originally Posted by Halo Sean Bean, the founder of memes!

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07-24-2012, 10:18 AM	#23
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	I agree with all but the vacating the wins, even making the penalty more harse would be OK. Punish the school and the football program as a whole, but removing Joe-Pa from his win record seems harse against one individual. Could remove all wins from the post-season because that punishes the program more as a whole.

07-24-2012, 01:11 PM	#24
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	As a matter of perspective (from Wikipedia): "During the 2000 season, an assistant football coach in Memphis, Tennessee claimed that an Alabama booster had paid him $50,000 to encourage one of his players to sign with the Crimson Tide. Following the NCAA investigation, Alabama received a probation from 2002 to 2006, a two-year post-season ban (2002 and 2003), and the loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years. A secret witness was later revealed to be Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer. On June 11, 2009, Alabama was sanctioned for textbook-related infractions involving 16 of 19 sports, including football. They were forced to vacate 21 wins from the 2005, 2006, and 2007 seasons and were put on three years probation, ending in June 2012. Alabama's appeal of the ruling was unsuccessful." From Me: Penn State didn't get it too bad for covering up YEARS of CHILD MOLESTING! Alabama got it nearly as bad for allegedly paying ONE player & for a couple of knuckleheads scamming textbooks.

07-25-2012, 08:53 AM	#26
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	I bet this would have never happened in Greece.