Maybe they will catch some of the thugs

gandhi1007 · 01-23-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

You know being number 11 on THAT LIST versus number 5 does not win you ANY awards -- that I know of -- except being known for violence.

I mean come on ... get real.

No, but only having one city on that list compared to 5 does.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-23-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No, but only having one city on that list compared to 5 does.

There IS ONLY ONE major metropolitan area in Louisiana. You don't get on that list if you are Winnfield.

Euphoria · 01-23-2012, 09:04 PM

I use to think San Diego was the best place to live but now that I have lived in Los Angeles... I'll take Los Angeles over any city in the US to live the rest of my life in.

Savannah GA second.

Boutte · 01-23-2012, 09:13 PM

And exactly what does this have to do with people at 49ers games feeling that they're in danger because they're not fans of the local team?

You're reaching for straws Cat. I guarantee that if come to the Super Dome wearing a 9ers jersey you'll have a completely different experience. And yourself the trouble of trying to dig up garbage to contrary. The instances that people have reported are isolated and mild in comparison. Thuggery is not tolerated in the Dome either by fans or law enforcement.

OldMaid · 01-31-2012, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

And exactly what does this have to do with people at 49ers games feeling that they're in danger because they're not fans of the local team?

You're reaching for straws Cat. I guarantee that if come to the Super Dome wearing a 9ers jersey you'll have a completely different experience. And yourself the trouble of trying to dig up garbage to contrary. The instances that people have reported are isolated and mild in comparison. Thuggery is not tolerated in the Dome either by fans or law enforcement.

I was going to post something similar Boutte , but I am still reading back posts and saw yours.

I KNOW New Orleans and the area has bad crime. It is out of control.
We know that. For the size and population, New Orleans is far easier to maintain than , lets say, the Bay area. For the geographic size and population size, there should be a better handle on crime in N.O. and surrounding areas.
Our courts, the do nothing judges, and system there does very little with criminals.
We know that since Hurricane Katrina, the "bad element" has spread itself out. the Halloween, 2011 shooting in the qrtrs. was awful. That Chris Owens club needs to close. I hope that TPTB(the powers that be), such as Mayor Landrieu, French Qrtr. Assocs. and others tackle these things.

Like Boutte said, in the Dome, any fans wearing any NFL team's clothing, would have a good experience. YES, there are some stupid people in the Dome. I would think and even bet, knowing that N.O. has a bad reputation, is rebuilding , that Saints ' fans would get Dome police, protect the visiting fans, etc. In whatever section, there are enough people to know that this would not be cool for New Orleans and the Superdome and the Saints and fans.
There is the difference.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-23-2012, 09:38 PM

Did you guys DID see my earlier post where I reference Times Picayune articles stating that the FBI, since AT LEAST 2009, has crowned New Orleans as the MURDER CAPITAL OF the United States? Right? I believe New Orleans has been earning that title for decades.

Hmmmm......so just what are you trying to say?

Boutte · 01-23-2012, 10:30 PM

Here's the thing though Cat, 90% of those murders happen in area of the city known as central city. The city of N.O. makes up about 30% of the metro population. the problem is gangs drugs and poverty. Just like South Central L.A, Detroit or where ever you similar problems.

Most of the people who say things like Ca sucks are really have no idea what they're talking about because at most they've been there for a business trip or maybe even spent a week there on vacation. To me L.A. is pit. That's why I lived in San Clemente, which doesn't suck by any stretch of the imagination. Cenral City N.O. and Lake Vista might as be on different planets. Sorry but this whole argument is stupid.

But then that brings us back to the discussion of the different experiences of fans visiting the respective city's NFL football games. Why do you think there's such an obvious difference? It has to attributable to something. This isn't a dig, I'd like what you think about the matter.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-23-2012, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Here's the thing though Cat, 90% of those murders happen in area of the city known as central city. The city of N.O. makes up about 30% of the metro population. the problem is gangs drugs and poverty. Just like South Central L.A, Detroit or where ever you similar problems.

But then that brings us back to the discussion of the different experiences of fans visiting the respective city's NFL football games. Why do you think there's such an obvious difference? It has to attributable to something. This isn't a dig, I'd like what you think about the matter.

Thanks for the reasonable perspective.

I can't explain the difference between the respective city's NFL football games except to say that I think people in NOLA have much more class than the buffoons who turnout at CandleStick Park -- where notably -- I showed up last year wearing my black and gold -- and the 49er fans were incredibly nasty. And, if I had been alone, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable -- possibly to the point of leaving.

But, for people on this site to equate the unstable behaviour of football fans in the Bay Area -- to the entire Bay Area much less the entire state of California -- well, all I can say is that is just -- as my grandmother from Opelousas would say -- "asinine".

saintfan · 01-23-2012, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

Thanks for the reasonable perspective.

I can't explain the difference between the respective city's NFL football games except to say that I think people in NOLA have much more class than the buffoons who turnout at CandleStick Park -- where notably -- I showed up last year wearing my black and gold -- and the 49er fans were incredibly nasty. And, if I had been alone, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable -- possibly to the point of leaving.

But, for people on this site to equate the unstable behaviour of football fans in the Bay Area -- to the entire Bay Area much less the entire state of California -- well, all I can say is that is just -- as my grandmother from Opelousas would say -- "asinine".

Here's my issue Cat. If defense of my reasonable assessment that the bay area is full of thugs and that it is nearly as violent as any place in the US, you, rather than look at the facts in a reasonable way, prefer to defend ( I guess ) the area by slamming New Orleans, a city that has nothing to do with the conversation. And you do so by what? By talking about the scenery? Seriously?

That's the part I don't get. You may not think the bay area is becoming more dangerous by the year, but in fact it is. I fail to see what is so unreasonable about my posts.

And what do you think Oakland would be like should, God forbid, it have to endure a natural disaster similar to the one New Orleans endured? And yes, I know New Orleans has also come with risks to the uninformed, but just for grins, what do you think?

I'd be willing to bet you Oakland wouldn't fare nearly as well as New Orleans...that's just a guess...an opinion...but Oakland and the bay area in general is bad and getting worse.

Now, I certainly DO equate the behavior at Niners games, Raiders games, and yes even Giants games (my boss could tell you some stories you wouldn't believe about what happens at Giants games) to the people who live here. They are, after all, the ones attending those games. Further, I see that behavior all over this area. Everywhere I go. I have friends who both live in and that have left Richmond, Vallejo, and Oakland - people who have lived out here for decades, complaining about how bad things are and how they're getting worse.

But don't take my word for it. Turn on KRON 4 tonight and pay attention.

alexonfyre · 01-23-2012, 11:43 PM

Saying Oakland, Vallejo, and Richmond are dangerous is like saying Metairie, Kenner and Gretna are dangerous. Are they different cities? Yes, but in reality they are all San Fran, just parts you know not to go to, the Bay Area is just as dangerous as any other urban area, calling it totally safe is ignorant.

A0so, no one from New Orleans can ever criticize any city for how bad their crime rate is. My parents were across the street (at a steakhouse) from the shooting in lakeview (at a Susan Spitzer restaurant,) I mean christ, nowhere in this city is safe for any person.

01-23-2012, 09:22 PM	#1
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT You know being number 11 on THAT LIST versus number 5 does not win you ANY awards -- that I know of -- except being known for violence. I mean come on ... get real. No, but only having one city on that list compared to 5 does.

01-23-2012, 09:24 PM	#2
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No, but only having one city on that list compared to 5 does. There IS ONLY ONE major metropolitan area in Louisiana. You don't get on that list if you are Winnfield.

01-23-2012, 09:13 PM	#4
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	And exactly what does this have to do with people at 49ers games feeling that they're in danger because they're not fans of the local team? You're reaching for straws Cat. I guarantee that if come to the Super Dome wearing a 9ers jersey you'll have a completely different experience. And yourself the trouble of trying to dig up garbage to contrary. The instances that people have reported are isolated and mild in comparison. Thuggery is not tolerated in the Dome either by fans or law enforcement. gandhi1007 likes this.

01-31-2012, 07:44 AM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Boutte And exactly what does this have to do with people at 49ers games feeling that they're in danger because they're not fans of the local team? You're reaching for straws Cat. I guarantee that if come to the Super Dome wearing a 9ers jersey you'll have a completely different experience. And yourself the trouble of trying to dig up garbage to contrary. The instances that people have reported are isolated and mild in comparison. Thuggery is not tolerated in the Dome either by fans or law enforcement. I was going to post something similar Boutte , but I am still reading back posts and saw yours. I KNOW New Orleans and the area has bad crime. It is out of control. We know that. For the size and population, New Orleans is far easier to maintain than , lets say, the Bay area. For the geographic size and population size, there should be a better handle on crime in N.O. and surrounding areas. Our courts, the do nothing judges, and system there does very little with criminals. We know that since Hurricane Katrina, the "bad element" has spread itself out. the Halloween, 2011 shooting in the qrtrs. was awful. That Chris Owens club needs to close. I hope that TPTB(the powers that be), such as Mayor Landrieu, French Qrtr. Assocs. and others tackle these things. Like Boutte said, in the Dome, any fans wearing any NFL team's clothing, would have a good experience. YES, there are some stupid people in the Dome. I would think and even bet, knowing that N.O. has a bad reputation, is rebuilding , that Saints ' fans would get Dome police, protect the visiting fans, etc. In whatever section, there are enough people to know that this would not be cool for New Orleans and the Superdome and the Saints and fans. There is the difference.

01-23-2012, 10:30 PM	#7
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Here's the thing though Cat, 90% of those murders happen in area of the city known as central city. The city of N.O. makes up about 30% of the metro population. the problem is gangs drugs and poverty. Just like South Central L.A, Detroit or where ever you similar problems. Most of the people who say things like Ca sucks are really have no idea what they're talking about because at most they've been there for a business trip or maybe even spent a week there on vacation. To me L.A. is pit. That's why I lived in San Clemente, which doesn't suck by any stretch of the imagination. Cenral City N.O. and Lake Vista might as be on different planets. Sorry but this whole argument is stupid. But then that brings us back to the discussion of the different experiences of fans visiting the respective city's NFL football games. Why do you think there's such an obvious difference? It has to attributable to something. This isn't a dig, I'd like what you think about the matter. Halo likes this.

01-23-2012, 09:04 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I use to think San Diego was the best place to live but now that I have lived in Los Angeles... I'll take Los Angeles over any city in the US to live the rest of my life in. Savannah GA second.

01-23-2012, 09:38 PM	#6
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Did you guys DID see my earlier post where I reference Times Picayune articles stating that the FBI, since AT LEAST 2009, has crowned New Orleans as the MURDER CAPITAL OF the United States? Right? I believe New Orleans has been earning that title for decades. Hmmmm......so just what are you trying to say?

01-23-2012, 11:15 PM	#8
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by Boutte Here's the thing though Cat, 90% of those murders happen in area of the city known as central city. The city of N.O. makes up about 30% of the metro population. the problem is gangs drugs and poverty. Just like South Central L.A, Detroit or where ever you similar problems. But then that brings us back to the discussion of the different experiences of fans visiting the respective city's NFL football games. Why do you think there's such an obvious difference? It has to attributable to something. This isn't a dig, I'd like what you think about the matter. Thanks for the reasonable perspective. I can't explain the difference between the respective city's NFL football games except to say that I think people in NOLA have much more class than the buffoons who turnout at CandleStick Park -- where notably -- I showed up last year wearing my black and gold -- and the 49er fans were incredibly nasty. And, if I had been alone, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable -- possibly to the point of leaving. But, for people on this site to equate the unstable behaviour of football fans in the Bay Area -- to the entire Bay Area much less the entire state of California -- well, all I can say is that is just -- as my grandmother from Opelousas would say -- "asinine".

01-23-2012, 11:38 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT Thanks for the reasonable perspective. I can't explain the difference between the respective city's NFL football games except to say that I think people in NOLA have much more class than the buffoons who turnout at CandleStick Park -- where notably -- I showed up last year wearing my black and gold -- and the 49er fans were incredibly nasty. And, if I had been alone, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable -- possibly to the point of leaving. But, for people on this site to equate the unstable behaviour of football fans in the Bay Area -- to the entire Bay Area much less the entire state of California -- well, all I can say is that is just -- as my grandmother from Opelousas would say -- "asinine". Here's my issue Cat. If defense of my reasonable assessment that the bay area is full of thugs and that it is nearly as violent as any place in the US, you, rather than look at the facts in a reasonable way, prefer to defend ( I guess ) the area by slamming New Orleans, a city that has nothing to do with the conversation. And you do so by what? By talking about the scenery? Seriously? That's the part I don't get. You may not think the bay area is becoming more dangerous by the year, but in fact it is. I fail to see what is so unreasonable about my posts. And what do you think Oakland would be like should, God forbid, it have to endure a natural disaster similar to the one New Orleans endured? And yes, I know New Orleans has also come with risks to the uninformed, but just for grins, what do you think? I'd be willing to bet you Oakland wouldn't fare nearly as well as New Orleans...that's just a guess...an opinion...but Oakland and the bay area in general is bad and getting worse. Now, I certainly DO equate the behavior at Niners games, Raiders games, and yes even Giants games (my boss could tell you some stories you wouldn't believe about what happens at Giants games) to the people who live here. They are, after all, the ones attending those games. Further, I see that behavior all over this area. Everywhere I go. I have friends who both live in and that have left Richmond, Vallejo, and Oakland - people who have lived out here for decades, complaining about how bad things are and how they're getting worse. But don't take my word for it. Turn on KRON 4 tonight and pay attention.
	C'mon Man... Last edited by saintfan; 01-23-2012 at 11:45 PM..

01-23-2012, 11:43 PM	#10
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Saying Oakland, Vallejo, and Richmond are dangerous is like saying Metairie, Kenner and Gretna are dangerous. Are they different cities? Yes, but in reality they are all San Fran, just parts you know not to go to, the Bay Area is just as dangerous as any other urban area, calling it totally safe is ignorant. A0so, no one from New Orleans can ever criticize any city for how bad their crime rate is. My parents were across the street (at a steakhouse) from the shooting in lakeview (at a Susan Spitzer restaurant,) I mean christ, nowhere in this city is safe for any person.

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