WHO_DAT_CAT

I'm not entertaining a violence comparison between CA and the deep South. Oakland has a reputation, as does the South, and it's lynchings. I was living in Mobile in the 70s when some crazy f*ckers hung a black boy from a tree in downtown.

So, why don't we just not go there? Because I am sure I could find some harrowing violence statistics, about New Orleans specifically, and the South in general. We both know that people in the South, and people here in CA, can be violent. I don't think either of us would win that pissing contest.

So, SaintFan, if you find San Francisco so unappealing, why don't you just move back home? I am being sincere. If you feel your life is in danger -- just move. I live on the Peninsula and I feel VERY safe. I haven't spent a great deal of time in San Francisco, but when I do go -- I have never had a problem at all -- except with outrageous parking fees.

I used to work in Oakland and took Bart. Never had a problem there either. But, I also try not to go alone at night to areas that might be unsafe.

But, I have to agree, the people who attend sporting events out here clearly need their meds adjusted. It is shocking.

saintfan

Are you comparing racial tension from the 70's to the violence in Oakland in 2012? Seriously?

Look, I don't wear a bullet proof vest to work. That's got nothing to do with my assertion that this area is one of the most violent in the country. There's nothing about that to debate. It's fact.

My job is here, and it's a good one. I happen to be in a very small niche industry. I make very good money here - more than I could make elsewhere, and I bought a house when I moved here that I can't just walk away from. Again, I'm not really sure what that has to do with anything, but you asked.

I did an install out here, just north of San Leandro, a few years before I moved here. A spanish business. I took a walk to a burger place not far from where I was working and described to someone who worked there the homeless people I saw in a park.

"You went to that park!?!", the guy said.

"No, but I walked across the street from it for a block to get to the burger place."

"Look man, no offense. Do NOT do that again. Another block east and you'll either be shot or mugged or both."

"In broad daylight? Seriously?"

"Seriously. Promise me you won't do that again. I'll take you someplace for lunch the rest of the week."

And he did. And I believed him then, and I know now for certain he wasn't just full of crap. The violence at sporting events out here is a very good representation of the overall mentality. It's scary. Maybe Detroit is worse? I don't know. I've never been there, but I'm not sure it gets much worse than it is out here right now.

Why don't we meet back here next week at this time and discuss how many people were shot and/or killed from now 'til then? Want to?

C'mon Man...

WHO_DAT_CAT

We don't need to meet back here next week to discuss this. New Orleans is THE MURDER CAPITAL OF THE US -- BY A WIDE MARGIN.

It is likely the murder capital of the industrialized world.

So, just stop it OK. Game over.

WHO_DAT_CAT

You know what is telling about your comment .... I just said that a BOY was HUNG from a tree in the middle of a city ....

and you characterized it as RACIAL TENSION.

Wow. Really?

I characterize it as an act of violence, otherwise known as a homicide, and first-degree murder.