I'm not calling that story 'official'. As for it having 'holes', of course it does. So does the bible. This is because, as you know, none of the evidence or documentation that might close those holes is available to us. We must take some things on faith.

I didn't post that article because it's 'official' in any way. I've watched the same documentaries you have, and probably a lot more through the years because I enjoy history and archaeology. In high school a dated a girl who's father was an archaeologist. Funny he was broke, but he was passionate about what he did.

I'm not interested in where the funding comes from that pays the man who wrote the article because, by and large, I agree with what he says, and further I came to those same conclusions, generally speaking, on my own.

It is entirely plausible that man built the pyramids. The work on the stones certainly was/is possible with the tools of the time. Men today stumble trying to believe it because it was, most literally, back-breaking and took decades, but as I've said, their entire focus was on that task. In so many cases from the time a person was able to help until the work killed them. They were every bit as intelligent as you or me, and in many ways far more dedicated to their task than you or I could ever be. They didn't have the distractions.

The exterior is the least impressive aspect, even in it's original glory in my opinion. The precise passageways (we believe) allowing the spirit or the soul of the dead king to leave the pyramid after death to assume his rightful place with Ra is more impressive, but again, that's just my opinion. The writer, for what it's worth, doesn't refer to it as 'stacked blocks of stone'. He states, rightfully that the bulk of the work would have been done at the base, which is not intended to lessen the perception of the work required to build the rest of it. He's just making what I believe is a valid point.

This is accurate. What has been seen inside the Great Pyramid contains no art work of any kind. This could mean that it, unlike the others, was not a tomb built for a king. It may also be that the part still unexplored because we haven't been able to get to them might contain the missing art work or who knows what else. At any rate it isn't evidence of aliens by any stretch.

FWIW, there are plenty of other sites around the world that we can't 'correctly date'. There are other places where we sit in wonder at their construction. Personally, I think you're quick to pull the 'that's impossible' trigger.

Look, there is much more evidence to support the thought that they were in fact built by men than there is to support the thought that they were built or that the Egyptians had help building them from aliens.

It is in our nature to look to the stars. They did it. We're still doing it. By the way I have read Genesis. I've read lots of other stuff too. I have no problem believing in evolution, micro OR macro, because I also have no conflicts in my believe that a Divine hand set it all in motion, regardless of how it started. I'm far less interested in how it began. I'm far more interested in the forward motion.

But back to the Pyramids...yes, they had help building them. Slave labor. Tens upon more tens of thousands of slaves who's remains are still being found under that sand. Devices have been built today, from the materials they had then, that can move those stones. We are all in awe of what a slow and painful process it must have been. The work killed people, but they did it. The evidence of their measurements, precise as they were, is still there, as is the evidence of them, like us, learning from their mistakes and getting better, clearly they became much better, over time.

A much bigger question for me would be this: If aliens dropped by our planet to consult with those people on the construction of a pyramid, to what end was their motivation? I mean, why? Why would those aliens make themselves so readily available to that civilization and then be such little stinkers and refuse to reveal themselves again? Are the rest of us so unworthy? Maybe they DID come back and help the Romans build the Coliseum? Because, frankly, the Romans were, in my opinion, equally impressive engineers as the Egyptians. So why? When then and never again since? Clearly, we need their help with all our problems far more than the Egyptians needed a perfectly constructed pyramid.

Look. It's easy to look at the pyramids and say, "Holy ****! How in God's name did they ever do that?" And then you consider the precise nature of its construction and the intricate passageways inside and you think, "Man that just isn't of this world." That's human nature to think that way, and I can remember them being far more mysterious, even to educated people, than they are today, because we have uncovered more and more since I was a kid, and those discoveries have revealed so much about their culture - their beliefs, their society, and their reasoning behind what they constructed.

To me, its is far more amazing and gratifying (and interesting) to accept that men created those things with their own blood and sweat, as a means to honoring something they felt was greater than than themselves. To think that the poor little humans needed the help of some uber intelligent aliens is a buzz kill, and a MUCH bigger reach in fact, than accepting that men did it.

I believe in life elsewhere. I always have. It just makes sense based on the mind bending number of galaxies. I don't need to give aliens credit for something men on this planet did to take that leap of faith.

We are all descendents of Michael Fassbender.

These would take days to plan because they are the size of the Superdome.

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Days to plan? The aliens had light years to do that on their way here! :givemebeer:

Anyone else notice foreverfan has no problem believing in crop circles, but doubts that a plane struck the Pentagon?

Sometimes you have to be a dumbass to believe everything they tell you on TV. Listen to what the ACTUAL EYE WITNESSES have to say. All eye witnesses remember it differently. Eye witnesses said the plane didn't hit the building but instead flew away. Until you view all of the unofficial side of the story, how can you actually take the official account except on blind faith. Sure the official government story is compelling but... Remember... this is the same government that creates money out of thin air and wants to take your guns away. Oh by the way... do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real?

So what happened to the people on the plane that flew away that didn't hit the Pentagon even though there was aircraft wreckage found on the ground around the Pentagon?

Great question. Was anybody on the plane? Who knows. If the government could pull this off, they could take care of a few passengers on a plane too.

Watch the above video WhoDat. The more you know about 911... the more the official story stinks. I've watched over 20 hours of it and the Government's official story doesn't add up to what other so called experts think.

More interesting unofficial story. Just because it's unofficial doesn't mean it's wrong.

For your theory to work, the passengers that boarded Flt 77 would have to be flown to somewhere other than where they bought a ticket for and there are only 2 possible outcomes after that:

1. The passengers were murdered,

2. The passengers are being held against their will and will have to continue to be held for the rest of their lives in 100% secrecy. If they are being held somewhere, then they will need to be clothed, fed, medical staff on hand, etc.

Do you really think that not one of those passengers in the last 10+ years hasn't said/asked something to a guard, custodian, etc., about why they are being held?

Without a doubt, someone working at that 'facility' would have attempted to sell proof to CNN, CBS, NBC, Fox, etc for instant millions.