Someone else made that happen?

SmashMouth · 08-03-2012, 08:58 AM

The most famous words of Obama's presidency

From a friend watching the Olympics: "How about that Michael Phelps? But let's remember he didn't win all those medals, someone else did. After all, he and I swam in public pools, built by state employees using tax dollars. He got training from the USOC, and ate food grown by the Department of Agriculture. He should play fair and share his medals with people like me, who can barely keep my head above water, let alone swim."
The note was merry and ironic. And as the games progress, we'll be hearing a lot more of this kind of thing, because President Obama's comment—"You didn't build that"—is the political gift that keeps on giving.
They are now the most famous words he has said in his presidency. And oh, how he wishes they weren't.

Read more: The most famous words of Obama's presidency | Fox News

Originally posted in the WSJ

jcp026 · 08-03-2012, 10:22 AM

"You Olympians know, however, that you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters, and brothers encouraged your hopes. Coaches guided. Communities built venues and organized competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We've already cheered the Olympians, let's also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities." -Mitt Romney

And then, when bashing the president for saying that small-businesses don't build roads and bridges, Romney echoed the same sentiment.

Come on, dude.

AlaskaSaints · 08-10-2012, 06:22 PM

I LOATHE Liberals.

Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals.

Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period. Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on.

I loathe these things.

Alaska

ScottF · 08-11-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

I LOATHE Liberals.

Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals.

Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period . Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on.

I loathe these things.

Alaska

Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy
that group includes the authors of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence

saintfan · 08-11-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy
that group includes the authors of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence

Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid.

ScottF · 08-11-2012, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid.

Very true.
My point was that there have been great men from that side, as well as the right. 'Loathing' either side is divisive and counterproductive. (welcome to America, 2012)

Danno · 08-11-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid.

Yep, todays liberals would consider those guys right wing extremists.

jcp026 · 08-12-2012, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

I LOATHE Liberals.

Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals.

Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period. Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on.

I loathe these things.

Alaska

Free lunch? Really? For a while in elementary school I didn't have free lunch and as a consequence I DIDN'T HAVE ANY LUNCH! I guess if I was really hungry I could have eaten out of the trash, right? You're a moron. If you weren't a veteran I'd have no respect for you at all.

saintfan · 08-12-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

Free lunch? Really? For a while in elementary school I didn't have free lunch and as a consequence I DIDN'T HAVE ANY LUNCH! I guess if I was really hungry I could have eaten out of the trash, right? You're a moron. If you weren't a veteran I'd have no respect for you at all.

When I was in elementary school my mom (single mother, 1975) qualified for free lunch for both me and my sister. She refused it. Now, I'm not saying that everyone can refuse it. Some people NEED it and that's what it's for.

Fast-forward to this summer. In California, they've cut public schools to the bone, and they may not be done, while they continue to fund stupid social programs and while California becomes more and more a welfare state.

Here's the rub. The elementary schools feed the kids free of charge. Lunch. Breakfast too. Dinner too. All school year. All summer long. But the program is abused. Kids bring their friends. Kids who don't NEED it show up too, with THEIR friends. The principal at my daughter's Elementary school is livid over the whole thing, but there's not ONE DAMN THING she can do about it.

American's don't mind giving. We are the most generous people the world has ever known. We don't like STEALING. And that's what the 'free lunch' program has become. I'm speaking ONLY about California, but I'm willing to bet this particular problem is not specific to the Golden State.

No, sir. He's not an idiot as you suggest. He's PISSED OFF, and he has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off, just as I and so many other people are pissed off because our country has drifted slowly over the years from what the founders intended. It is no longer drifting. It is on rapids and it is approaching the waterfall.

I've discussed this stuff with you. You're not stupid. You're well read on the subject, so I know you know we are not where the Constitution would have us be. We are increasingly a nation of people who feel entitled to things simply because someone else has them. There are people who grew up watching their parents and their grandparents manipulate, abuse, and scam Government programs, and of course they're scamming them too, all at the expense of the working public.

WE ARE TIRED OF IT. No. he's no moron. He is a pissed off American who is tired of seeing loafers live off his dime while he struggles to provide decent things for his family - things he wouldn't have to struggle to provide if he wasn't being forced by big brother to subsidize someone else who is able but not willing to go out and get his own. He doesn't have to. If his kids are hungry, no problem. Head down to the school. If he wants a cell phone he doesn't have to save for it, Obama will just give him one. If he needs a car, he doesn't have to sacrifice. He simply needs to get on Welfare and the Government will provide one for him, pay for the insurance, AND for AAA.

If you work for what you have, and if these programs don't piss you off, then I'm not sure I can have a conversation with you. Anybody who thinks Thomas Jefferson or Lincoln would approve is sadly mistaken. The "New Deal" was sneaked through in the dead of night and the country has been on the hell express ever since.

jcp026 · 08-12-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

When I was in elementary school my mom (single mother, 1975) qualified for free lunch for both me and my sister. She refused it. Now, I'm not saying that everyone can refuse it. Some people NEED it and that's what it's for.

Fast-forward to this summer. In California, they've cut public schools to the bone, and they may not be done, while they continue to fund stupid social programs and while California becomes more and more a welfare state.

Here's the rub. The elementary schools feed the kids free of charge. Lunch. Breakfast too. Dinner too. All school year. All summer long. But the program is abused. Kids bring their friends. Kids who don't NEED it show up too, with THEIR friends. The principal at my daughter's Elementary school is livid over the whole thing, but there's not ONE DAMN THING she can do about it.

American's don't mind giving. We are the most generous people the world has ever known. We don't like STEALING. And that's what the 'free lunch' program has become. I'm speaking ONLY about California, but I'm willing to bet this particular problem is not specific to the Golden State.

No, sir. He's not an idiot as you suggest. He's PISSED OFF, and he has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off, just as I and so many other people are pissed off because our country has drifted slowly over the years from what the founders intended. It is no longer drifting. It is on rapids and it is approaching the waterfall.

I've discussed this stuff with you. You're not stupid. You're well read on the subject, so I know you know we are not where the Constitution would have us be. We are increasingly a nation of people who feel entitled to things simply because someone else has them. There are people who grew up watching their parents and their grandparents manipulate, abuse, and scam Government programs, and of course they're scamming them too, all at the expense of the working public.

WE ARE TIRED OF IT. No. he's no moron. He is a pissed off American who is tired of seeing loafers live off his dime while he struggles to provide decent things for his family - things he wouldn't have to struggle to provide if he wasn't being forced by big brother to subsidize someone else who is able but not willing to go out and get his own. He doesn't have to. If his kids are hungry, no problem. Head down to the school. If he wants a cell phone he doesn't have to save for it, Obama will just give him one. If he needs a car, he doesn't have to sacrifice. He simply needs to get on Welfare and the Government will provide one for him, pay for the insurance, AND for AAA.

If you work for what you have, and if these programs don't piss you off, then I'm not sure I can have a conversation with you. Anybody who thinks Thomas Jefferson or Lincoln would approve is sadly mistaken. The "New Deal" was sneaked through in the dead of night and the country has been on the hell express ever since.

This is pointless. If we can't even agree that poor children, poor through no fault of their own, and hungry because they're human shouldn't be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free then I don't know where we can agree.

08-03-2012, 10:22 AM	#2
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	"You Olympians know, however, that you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters, and brothers encouraged your hopes. Coaches guided. Communities built venues and organized competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We've already cheered the Olympians, let's also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities." -Mitt Romney And then, when bashing the president for saying that small-businesses don't build roads and bridges, Romney echoed the same sentiment. Come on, dude. ScottF likes this.
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08-10-2012, 06:22 PM	#3
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Someone else made that happen? I LOATHE Liberals. Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals. Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period. Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on. I loathe these things. Alaska

08-11-2012, 01:00 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints I LOATHE Liberals. Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals. Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period . Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on. I loathe these things. Alaska Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy that group includes the authors of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by ScottF Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy that group includes the authors of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid.

08-11-2012, 03:09 PM	#6
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by saintfan Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid. Very true. My point was that there have been great men from that side, as well as the right. 'Loathing' either side is divisive and counterproductive. (welcome to America, 2012)

08-03-2012, 08:58 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,080 Blog Entries: 29	The most famous words of Obama's presidency From a friend watching the Olympics: "How about that Michael Phelps? But let's remember he didn't win all those medals, someone else did. After all, he and I swam in public pools, built by state employees using tax dollars. He got training from the USOC, and ate food grown by the Department of Agriculture. He should play fair and share his medals with people like me, who can barely keep my head above water, let alone swim." The note was merry and ironic. And as the games progress, we'll be hearing a lot more of this kind of thing, because President Obama's comment—"You didn't build that"—is the political gift that keeps on giving. They are now the most famous words he has said in his presidency. And oh, how he wishes they weren't. Read more: The most famous words of Obama's presidency \| Fox News Originally posted in the WSJ

08-11-2012, 03:29 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by saintfan Once you get beyond Lincoln you're dealing with a different kind of liberal I'm afraid. Yep, todays liberals would consider those guys right wing extremists.

08-12-2012, 09:28 AM	#8
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints I LOATHE Liberals. Know that. When you are dealing with AlaskaSaints, you are dealing with and ABLE Veteran who loathes liberals. Fair. Not a hand-out but a hand-up. Welfare. EBT. Food Stamps. Section 8 housing. Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund. Free lunch program. Handicap parking for non-paraplegics. Handicap parking period. Equal Opportunity Employment. Social Services. Social experimenting... An on and on and on. I loathe these things. Alaska Free lunch? Really? For a while in elementary school I didn't have free lunch and as a consequence I DIDN'T HAVE ANY LUNCH! I guess if I was really hungry I could have eaten out of the trash, right? You're a moron. If you weren't a veteran I'd have no respect for you at all.
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08-12-2012, 10:22 AM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by jcp026 Free lunch? Really? For a while in elementary school I didn't have free lunch and as a consequence I DIDN'T HAVE ANY LUNCH! I guess if I was really hungry I could have eaten out of the trash, right? You're a moron. If you weren't a veteran I'd have no respect for you at all. When I was in elementary school my mom (single mother, 1975) qualified for free lunch for both me and my sister. She refused it. Now, I'm not saying that everyone can refuse it. Some people NEED it and that's what it's for. Fast-forward to this summer. In California, they've cut public schools to the bone, and they may not be done, while they continue to fund stupid social programs and while California becomes more and more a welfare state. Here's the rub. The elementary schools feed the kids free of charge. Lunch. Breakfast too. Dinner too. All school year. All summer long. But the program is abused. Kids bring their friends. Kids who don't NEED it show up too, with THEIR friends. The principal at my daughter's Elementary school is livid over the whole thing, but there's not ONE DAMN THING she can do about it. American's don't mind giving. We are the most generous people the world has ever known. We don't like STEALING. And that's what the 'free lunch' program has become. I'm speaking ONLY about California, but I'm willing to bet this particular problem is not specific to the Golden State. No, sir. He's not an idiot as you suggest. He's PISSED OFF, and he has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off, just as I and so many other people are pissed off because our country has drifted slowly over the years from what the founders intended. It is no longer drifting. It is on rapids and it is approaching the waterfall. I've discussed this stuff with you. You're not stupid. You're well read on the subject, so I know you know we are not where the Constitution would have us be. We are increasingly a nation of people who feel entitled to things simply because someone else has them. There are people who grew up watching their parents and their grandparents manipulate, abuse, and scam Government programs, and of course they're scamming them too, all at the expense of the working public. WE ARE TIRED OF IT. No. he's no moron. He is a pissed off American who is tired of seeing loafers live off his dime while he struggles to provide decent things for his family - things he wouldn't have to struggle to provide if he wasn't being forced by big brother to subsidize someone else who is able but not willing to go out and get his own. He doesn't have to. If his kids are hungry, no problem. Head down to the school. If he wants a cell phone he doesn't have to save for it, Obama will just give him one. If he needs a car, he doesn't have to sacrifice. He simply needs to get on Welfare and the Government will provide one for him, pay for the insurance, AND for AAA. If you work for what you have, and if these programs don't piss you off, then I'm not sure I can have a conversation with you. Anybody who thinks Thomas Jefferson or Lincoln would approve is sadly mistaken. The "New Deal" was sneaked through in the dead of night and the country has been on the hell express ever since. Danno likes this.
	C'mon Man... Last edited by saintfan; 08-12-2012 at 10:25 AM..

08-12-2012, 11:04 AM	#10
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by saintfan When I was in elementary school my mom (single mother, 1975) qualified for free lunch for both me and my sister. She refused it. Now, I'm not saying that everyone can refuse it. Some people NEED it and that's what it's for. Fast-forward to this summer. In California, they've cut public schools to the bone, and they may not be done, while they continue to fund stupid social programs and while California becomes more and more a welfare state. Here's the rub. The elementary schools feed the kids free of charge. Lunch. Breakfast too. Dinner too. All school year. All summer long. But the program is abused. Kids bring their friends. Kids who don't NEED it show up too, with THEIR friends. The principal at my daughter's Elementary school is livid over the whole thing, but there's not ONE DAMN THING she can do about it. American's don't mind giving. We are the most generous people the world has ever known. We don't like STEALING. And that's what the 'free lunch' program has become. I'm speaking ONLY about California, but I'm willing to bet this particular problem is not specific to the Golden State. No, sir. He's not an idiot as you suggest. He's PISSED OFF, and he has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off, just as I and so many other people are pissed off because our country has drifted slowly over the years from what the founders intended. It is no longer drifting. It is on rapids and it is approaching the waterfall. I've discussed this stuff with you. You're not stupid. You're well read on the subject, so I know you know we are not where the Constitution would have us be. We are increasingly a nation of people who feel entitled to things simply because someone else has them. There are people who grew up watching their parents and their grandparents manipulate, abuse, and scam Government programs, and of course they're scamming them too, all at the expense of the working public. WE ARE TIRED OF IT. No. he's no moron. He is a pissed off American who is tired of seeing loafers live off his dime while he struggles to provide decent things for his family - things he wouldn't have to struggle to provide if he wasn't being forced by big brother to subsidize someone else who is able but not willing to go out and get his own. He doesn't have to. If his kids are hungry, no problem. Head down to the school. If he wants a cell phone he doesn't have to save for it, Obama will just give him one. If he needs a car, he doesn't have to sacrifice. He simply needs to get on Welfare and the Government will provide one for him, pay for the insurance, AND for AAA. If you work for what you have, and if these programs don't piss you off, then I'm not sure I can have a conversation with you. Anybody who thinks Thomas Jefferson or Lincoln would approve is sadly mistaken. The "New Deal" was sneaked through in the dead of night and the country has been on the hell express ever since. This is pointless. If we can't even agree that poor children, poor through no fault of their own, and hungry because they're human shouldn't be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free then I don't know where we can agree.
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