Someone else made that happen?

saintfan · 08-12-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

This is pointless. If we can't even agree that poor children, poor through no fault of their own, and hungry because they're human shouldn't be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free then I don't know where we can agree.

You didn't read what I typed. We DO agree that poor children should be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free. I doubt you'll find a man or woman in America who disagrees.

Where I disagree with my liberal friends is accountability. If, for example, you're benefiting from Section 8 you should be subject to periodic inspections - random so that you cannot prepare and hide your 3000 dollar stereos, Ipods, 52" televisions, and the 12 relatives living with you. There are people who need Section 8 who are using Section 8, but there are more people on Section 8 because they're lazy and they are career abusers of the system. We need to put a stop to that practice.

The principal of my daughter's Elementary school should have the power to enforce rules. But before that, rules have to be created so that she can enforce them. As things are now, when some kid wanders in she cannot require that kid to show proof that he/she should be there, and if she DID ask the district would fire her. That program exists at the expense of Civics, and music, and physical education, and more. It's a free for all. Pun intended. It sucks and it should be stopped.

People like me (and I'm sure I'm speaking for many others, but this is just me, talking to you) are sick and damn tired of our Government robbing from us and giving to the "poor", because, to be truthful, many of the poor are poor by choice, and it's breaking my back to subsidize the lazy. MY kids don't have all they could/should have, because my neighbor wants to run her air conditioner at 68 degrees all damn day. That makes me angry. MY bill is 400 dollars a month (more in Northern California than anywhere in Arizona by the way) so hers can be 60.

Now my friend that isn't right. And it's just one example of a thousand others I could submit. And if you can't see that...if you can't see why that makes me livid, well, then you're right. This is truly pointless.

saintfan · 08-10-2012, 09:05 PM

It's a welfare state AlaskaSaints. And it's getting worse. We are making bad, BAD decisions. In California, for example, they've stopped teaching Civics, among other things, because they "can't afford it".

Seriously.

But they can fund all those things you mentioned, and out here in the "People's Republic" they are funding much MUCH more. It is maddening and it is insane and it needs to be stopped.

It's funny. All the uber-liberals in the Bay Area live over in Marin County, where they voted and were adamant about keeping OUT public transportation like BART. LOL

People need to read the damn Constitution. Then again, half the people casting votes in this country never have, and never will. America is on the hell express, and it ain't stopping any time soon from what I can tell unless or until the people of this country TAKE IT BACK.

SmashMouth · 08-12-2012, 05:24 PM

SmashMouth · 08-16-2012, 05:27 AM

Iowa deli co-owner caters for Obama visit, but his T-shirt tells another story

Ross Murty likes business, but he doesn’t like President Obama.

And so the co-owner of the Village Corner Deli here agreed to cater Obama’s visit Wednesday — but not before donning a T-shirt blaring the message: “Government didn’t build my business. I did.”

It was a reference to a remark Obama made several weeks ago that his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, has seized upon to portray Obama as anti-business. Obama, referring to the help government provides to businesses by building roads and providing education and other services, said, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that."

“No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business,” Murty said. Before him was a bank of chafing dishes filled with smoked beef brisket, pulled pork, vegetable parmesan bake and cheesy hash brown casserole provided to the White House press corps covering the president’s three-day swing across Iowa this week.

Murty, 45, a registered Republican, didn’t really have a choice with the catering job. His partner, Bret Dalton (a registered Democrat), accepted the work on Saturday while Murty was away in Chicago watching a Cubs game. Dalton volunteered for Vice President Biden’s presidential campaign in 1988, when he was a student at Iowa State University.

But that’s not why he got the contract.

“One of Obama’s lead people came into the deli Saturday morning,” Dalton said. “I didn’t even know it was for Obama until that night.”

When he found out, though, Dalton had some fun. He called up Murty, who was driving back from Chicago, and asked: “Guess who’s coming to town this week?”

“He was a little stunned,” Dalton recalled. But the two take their political disagreements in stride, and the conversation was all in good fun, both said.

“I would never say no to anybody for any reason,” Murty said. “My partner and I have different views in politics, but business is business.”

The White House performs background checks on contractors for security reasons, but it does not vet them for their political views. Also, the caterers are hired to provide food for the White House press corps, which pays for the food, even though the White House makes the arrangements.

The Obama campaign had no comment on Murty's T-shirt.

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08-12-2012, 12:45 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Someone else made that happen? Originally Posted by jcp026 This is pointless. If we can't even agree that poor children, poor through no fault of their own, and hungry because they're human shouldn't be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free then I don't know where we can agree. You didn't read what I typed. We DO agree that poor children should be able to get lunch and breakfast at school for free. I doubt you'll find a man or woman in America who disagrees. Where I disagree with my liberal friends is accountability. If, for example, you're benefiting from Section 8 you should be subject to periodic inspections - random so that you cannot prepare and hide your 3000 dollar stereos, Ipods, 52" televisions, and the 12 relatives living with you. There are people who need Section 8 who are using Section 8, but there are more people on Section 8 because they're lazy and they are career abusers of the system. We need to put a stop to that practice. The principal of my daughter's Elementary school should have the power to enforce rules. But before that, rules have to be created so that she can enforce them. As things are now, when some kid wanders in she cannot require that kid to show proof that he/she should be there, and if she DID ask the district would fire her. That program exists at the expense of Civics, and music, and physical education, and more. It's a free for all. Pun intended. It sucks and it should be stopped. People like me (and I'm sure I'm speaking for many others, but this is just me, talking to you) are sick and damn tired of our Government robbing from us and giving to the "poor", because, to be truthful, many of the poor are poor by choice, and it's breaking my back to subsidize the lazy. MY kids don't have all they could/should have, because my neighbor wants to run her air conditioner at 68 degrees all damn day. That makes me angry. MY bill is 400 dollars a month (more in Northern California than anywhere in Arizona by the way) so hers can be 60. Now my friend that isn't right. And it's just one example of a thousand others I could submit. And if you can't see that...if you can't see why that makes me livid, well, then you're right. This is truly pointless. SmashMouth likes this.
	C'mon Man... Last edited by saintfan; 08-12-2012 at 12:47 PM..

08-10-2012, 09:05 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Someone else made that happen? It's a welfare state AlaskaSaints. And it's getting worse. We are making bad, BAD decisions. In California, for example, they've stopped teaching Civics, among other things, because they "can't afford it". Seriously. But they can fund all those things you mentioned, and out here in the "People's Republic" they are funding much MUCH more. It is maddening and it is insane and it needs to be stopped. It's funny. All the uber-liberals in the Bay Area live over in Marin County, where they voted and were adamant about keeping OUT public transportation like BART. LOL People need to read the damn Constitution. Then again, half the people casting votes in this country never have, and never will. America is on the hell express, and it ain't stopping any time soon from what I can tell unless or until the people of this country TAKE IT BACK.
	C'mon Man...

08-12-2012, 05:24 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,916 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Someone else made that happen? Danno likes this.

08-16-2012, 05:27 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,916 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Someone else made that happen? Iowa deli co-owner caters for Obama visit, but his T-shirt tells another story Ross Murty likes business, but he doesn’t like President Obama. And so the co-owner of the Village Corner Deli here agreed to cater Obama’s visit Wednesday — but not before donning a T-shirt blaring the message: “Government didn’t build my business. I did.” It was a reference to a remark Obama made several weeks ago that his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, has seized upon to portray Obama as anti-business. Obama, referring to the help government provides to businesses by building roads and providing education and other services, said, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that." “No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business,” Murty said. Before him was a bank of chafing dishes filled with smoked beef brisket, pulled pork, vegetable parmesan bake and cheesy hash brown casserole provided to the White House press corps covering the president’s three-day swing across Iowa this week. Murty, 45, a registered Republican, didn’t really have a choice with the catering job. His partner, Bret Dalton (a registered Democrat), accepted the work on Saturday while Murty was away in Chicago watching a Cubs game. Dalton volunteered for Vice President Biden’s presidential campaign in 1988, when he was a student at Iowa State University. But that’s not why he got the contract. “One of Obama’s lead people came into the deli Saturday morning,” Dalton said. “I didn’t even know it was for Obama until that night.” When he found out, though, Dalton had some fun. He called up Murty, who was driving back from Chicago, and asked: “Guess who’s coming to town this week?” “He was a little stunned,” Dalton recalled. But the two take their political disagreements in stride, and the conversation was all in good fun, both said. “I would never say no to anybody for any reason,” Murty said. “My partner and I have different views in politics, but business is business.” The White House performs background checks on contractors for security reasons, but it does not vet them for their political views. Also, the caterers are hired to provide food for the White House press corps, which pays for the food, even though the White House makes the arrangements. The Obama campaign had no comment on Murty's T-shirt. Read More Danno likes this.