Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign

vpheughan · 10-12-2021, 07:28 AM

I wonder if the estate of Bob Cummins and Harvey Lembeck will sue Urban Mayer over the use of "The Finger"?

Watch 1963's Beach Party. You'll understand.

neugey · 10-12-2021, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Listening to ESPN on my way to work this morning, and one of the guys on the Keyshawn, JWill and Max show, I'm pretty sure it was JWill, said that he thought it looked like they were trying to take Gruden down.

Interesting observation. They also mentioned this all came out as part of the investigation into WFT. Like Gruden was collateral damage.

Just think about it - while investigating past actions of Team A, the NFL finds materials about active coach of Team B and leaks those details to the NY Times while investigation is still in progress. I would be appalled if I was the Raiders owner or GM. This may be the sickest thing Goodell has done in quite some time.

RailBoss · 10-12-2021, 11:05 AM

When Gruden worked as a commentator for ESPN, he called Goodell a “faggo-t and an “anti football pus-sy”
— among other insults — in emails to former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen, the New York Times reported Monday.

Ya think that may have sealed Chucky's fate. That's some Bad Karma..

stickman · 10-12-2021, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

When Gruden worked as a commentator for ESPN, he called Goodell a “faggo-t and an “anti football pus-sy”
— among other insults — in emails to former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen, the New York Times reported Monday.

Ya think that may have sealed Chucky's fate. That's some Bad Karma..

Makes you wonder who actually likes Goodell. And don't say the owners because I'll bet Saints ownership isn't too fond of him.

spkb25 · 10-12-2021, 11:52 AM

In all sincerity there's no excuse for what he said about the dudes lips. Stupid to put it in an email but just even thinking like that where it would blurt out is awful.

It is unsavory and he wasnt 15 or 20, he is supposed to be at a point in his life where you grow up. I don't even understand that ****e.

His stuff about the NFL applying pressure for the homo drafting, we all know that is accurate. Publicity stunt 101. Amazing how we are still pretending taking it in the rectum and telling the whole world is somehow amazing. So stupid the fakeness of our entire society.

iceshack149 · 10-12-2021, 07:06 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=entnewsntp

I'll be honest, I haven't read any of Gruden's emails but removing him from the Buccaneers Ring-of-Honor seems silly.

WhoDat!656 · 10-12-2021, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Just think about it - while investigating past actions of Team A, the NFL finds materials about active coach of Team B and leaks those details to the NY Times while investigation is still in progress. I would be appalled if I was the Raiders owner or GM. This may be the sickest thing
Goodell has done in quite some time.

NFL contends it released no Jon Gruden emails

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...gruden-emails/

saintfan · 10-12-2021, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=entnewsntp

I'll be honest, I haven't read any of Gruden's emails but removing him from the Buccaneers Ring-of-Honor seems silly.

15 years ago I would agree. Today? Its the Queen Hatshepsut treatment.

If you are perceived as a threat you must be cancelled, deleted, torn down, removed from existence, stricken from the record, never to be seen or heard from again otherwise you may offend or threaten again. Pages torn.
Monuments revoked. Removed from the list as if you never existed.

Most people will have to google hatshepsut is my guess. Not so ironic really...

What Gruden said is wrong and not at all unexpected frankly. That's who he is. 15 years ago he'd lose his job. And he should. Today he'll be treated like a queen.

RailBoss · 10-12-2021, 09:59 PM

You wonder how Sean's taking this whole Gruden turn of events.
They did coach together in Philly early on and seemed to have remained friends over the years.

2009 Saints in Gruden's QB Camp: Drew Brees Sean Payton - YouTube

stickman · 10-13-2021, 07:12 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-nfl...034826099.html

Good article. Mentions how the league got exactly what they wanted out of this whole situation.

10-12-2021, 07:28 AM	#11
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign I wonder if the estate of Bob Cummins and Harvey Lembeck will sue Urban Mayer over the use of "The Finger"? Watch 1963's Beach Party. You'll understand.
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10-12-2021, 07:44 AM	#12
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,714 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign Originally Posted by stickman Listening to ESPN on my way to work this morning, and one of the guys on the Keyshawn, JWill and Max show, I'm pretty sure it was JWill, said that he thought it looked like they were trying to take Gruden down. Interesting observation. They also mentioned this all came out as part of the investigation into WFT. Like Gruden was collateral damage. Just think about it - while investigating past actions of Team A, the NFL finds materials about active coach of Team B and leaks those details to the NY Times while investigation is still in progress. I would be appalled if I was the Raiders owner or GM. This may be the sickest thing Goodell has done in quite some time. SmashMouth, jeanpierre and Boston Saint like this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign When Gruden worked as a commentator for ESPN, he called Goodell a “faggo-t and an “anti football pus-sy” — among other insults — in emails to former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen, the New York Times reported Monday. Ya think that may have sealed Chucky's fate. That's some Bad Karma.. K Major likes this.

10-12-2021, 11:47 AM	#14
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,687	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign Originally Posted by RailBoss When Gruden worked as a commentator for ESPN, he called Goodell a “faggo-t and an “anti football pus-sy” — among other insults — in emails to former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen, the New York Times reported Monday. Ya think that may have sealed Chucky's fate. That's some Bad Karma.. Makes you wonder who actually likes Goodell. And don't say the owners because I'll bet Saints ownership isn't too fond of him. Boston Saint likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign In all sincerity there's no excuse for what he said about the dudes lips. Stupid to put it in an email but just even thinking like that where it would blurt out is awful. It is unsavory and he wasnt 15 or 20, he is supposed to be at a point in his life where you grow up. I don't even understand that ****e. His stuff about the NFL applying pressure for the homo drafting, we all know that is accurate. Publicity stunt 101. Amazing how we are still pretending taking it in the rectum and telling the whole world is somehow amazing. So stupid the fakeness of our entire society.
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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=entnewsntp I'll be honest, I haven't read any of Gruden's emails but removing him from the Buccaneers Ring-of-Honor seems silly. neugey and Boston Saint like this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign Originally Posted by neugey Just think about it - while investigating past actions of Team A, the NFL finds materials about active coach of Team B and leaks those details to the NY Times while investigation is still in progress. I would be appalled if I was the Raiders owner or GM. This may be the sickest thing Goodell has done in quite some time. NFL contends it released no Jon Gruden emails https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...gruden-emails/

10-12-2021, 09:30 PM	#18
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign Originally Posted by iceshack149 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=entnewsntp I'll be honest, I haven't read any of Gruden's emails but removing him from the Buccaneers Ring-of-Honor seems silly. 15 years ago I would agree. Today? Its the Queen Hatshepsut treatment. If you are perceived as a threat you must be cancelled, deleted, torn down, removed from existence, stricken from the record, never to be seen or heard from again otherwise you may offend or threaten again. Pages torn. Monuments revoked. Removed from the list as if you never existed. Most people will have to google hatshepsut is my guess. Not so ironic really... What Gruden said is wrong and not at all unexpected frankly. That's who he is. 15 years ago he'd lose his job. And he should. Today he'll be treated like a queen. iceshack149 likes this.
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10-13-2021, 07:12 AM	#20
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,687	Re: Jon Gruden tells staff he will resign https://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-nfl...034826099.html Good article. Mentions how the league got exactly what they wanted out of this whole situation. neugey and RailBoss like this.

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