Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

This is bad. Tanking is one thing, paying your coach extra to lose is another.

Could fans of those teams sue? I mean if you paid money being led to believe that the team was trying to win when it actually wasn't, it that some type of fraud?

They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson.

stickman · 02-02-2022, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson.

I'm sure they will try to spin it as they were trying to take a step back so they could take two steps forward, but still... to deceive your fan base like that is not good.

You would think the league would HAVE to do something or they look like they are okay with teams losing on purporse.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 09:45 AM

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

I'm sure they will try to spin it as they were trying to take a step back so they could take two steps forward, but still... to deceive your fan base like that is not good.

You would think the league would HAVE to do something or they look like they are okay with teams losing on purporse.

The Constitution and Bylaws of the NFL has a section that addresses this type of violation under Article VIII on page 34. It deals with exchanging of money for controlling or game fixing and such.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 10:20 AM

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 10:32 AM

vpheughan · 02-02-2022, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

This is bad. Tanking is one thing, paying your coach extra to lose is another.

Could fans of those teams sue? I mean if you paid money being led to believe that the team was trying to win when it actually wasn't, it that some type of fraud?

The NFL is a private business so it is entirely legal for it to pre-determine the outcome of its games, just as the WWE does. Ultimately, it need be no different than a scripted television series or movie.

vpheughan · 02-02-2022, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson.

Jul 9, 2018: Jerry Richardson, who put the Panthers up for sale after alleged confidential payouts for workplace misconduct, including sexual harassment and use of a racial slur sparked an investigation into the team's workplace by the league.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 12:27 PM

LOL!

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2022, 01:16 PM

A link to a great thread that covers the 58 page lawsuit in detail!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants Originally Posted by stickman This is bad. Tanking is one thing, paying your coach extra to lose is another. Could fans of those teams sue? I mean if you paid money being led to believe that the team was trying to win when it actually wasn't, it that some type of fraud? They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson.

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stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,597	Re: Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson. I'm sure they will try to spin it as they were trying to take a step back so they could take two steps forward, but still... to deceive your fan base like that is not good. You would think the league would HAVE to do something or they look like they are okay with teams losing on purporse.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants Originally Posted by stickman I'm sure they will try to spin it as they were trying to take a step back so they could take two steps forward, but still... to deceive your fan base like that is not good. You would think the league would HAVE to do something or they look like they are okay with teams losing on purporse. The Constitution and Bylaws of the NFL has a section that addresses this type of violation under Article VIII on page 34. It deals with exchanging of money for controlling or game fixing and such.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants Originally Posted by stickman This is bad. Tanking is one thing, paying your coach extra to lose is another. Could fans of those teams sue? I mean if you paid money being led to believe that the team was trying to win when it actually wasn't, it that some type of fraud? The NFL is a private business so it is entirely legal for it to pre-determine the outcome of its games, just as the WWE does. Ultimately, it need be no different than a scripted television series or movie.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Brian Flores Suing the NFL/Giants Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They can sue, but proving the losing was a direct result would be extremely difficult. Regardless, both of these owners may have just forfeited their ownership rights. They can be forced to sell just like what happened in Carolina with Jerry Richardson. Jul 9, 2018: Jerry Richardson, who put the Panthers up for sale after alleged confidential payouts for workplace misconduct, including sexual harassment and use of a racial slur sparked an investigation into the team's workplace by the league.
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