NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League

SmashMouth · 05-19-2025, 11:37 PM

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stickman · 05-20-2025, 05:47 AM

More of a rant than a hot take, but he's right.

For the record, I had Amazon Prime before they started broadcasting games and I have Peacock to watch the English Premier League. I don't think I would be signing up for those just for the NFL.

I do wonder sometimes if they even care about ratings anymore. I mean if Amazon is going to give them a billion dollars to broadcast NFL games 1 day a week, do they even care if anyone watches?

AsylumGuido · 05-20-2025, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

More of a rant than a hot take, but he's right.

For the record, I had Amazon Prime before they started broadcasting games and I have Peacock to watch the English Premier League. I don't think I would be signing up for those just for the NFL.

I do wonder sometimes if they even care about ratings anymore. I mean if Amazon is going to give them a billion dollars to broadcast NFL games 1 day a week, do they even care if anyone watches?

They definitely care about ratings and not just in the U.S., but also in the rest of America (southern, central, and Canada) and the rest of the world. I read the plan is to have 16 international games within a couple of years or so and 18 game seasons are pretty much a given.

vpheughan · 05-23-2025, 09:54 PM

The REF who was waving the flag
That began with the MYSTICAL HAND (2009 NFCCG Remember?)
Hip hooray! The NFL WAY
The FIELD is a STAGE; the STAGE is a world of ENTERTAINMENT!

The NFL "cares" about one thing, more venues equals more games equals MORE MONEY!!!

Lay your money down easy, SMILE when they take it away!

neugey · 05-30-2025, 12:00 PM

If the NFL wants more money, they should expand to 36 teams and realign to 6 divisions with 6 teams each.

arsaint · 05-30-2025, 01:06 PM

Roger ruined the NFL. He worships the dollar at the expense of the fans and the game.

AsylumGuido · 05-30-2025, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Roger ruined the NFL. He worships the dollar at the expense of the fans and the game.

He's simply doing the job that he was hired to do. It's the owners as a group that worship the almighty dollar. That's how they, or their family's all became wealthy enough to own a team.

I for one cannot get enough of the NFL. I believe that is probably the prevalent viewpoint of NFL fans today. The game has never been more popular and the fans are eating it up more than ever.

arsaint · 05-30-2025, 05:43 PM

I'd have to respectfully disagree. Goodell is a douchebag.

He's done nothing but make the NFL look like the WWE. Easily the worst commissioner in the big 4 sports in my lifetime.

I've seen so many $#$! calls by refs, so many stupid rule changes (we still don't know what pass interference is or what a catch is), so much woke BS, and so much greed that the NFL almost doesn't qualify as a legit sport.

And all this man can worry about is peddling the game on pay services or internationally while giving the middle finger to older fans like me. There is a tipping point where this is not going to work and I think he's getting close.

I love the Saints (being a Louisiana native) and will always want them to win, but I don't take the NFL seriously any longer. I think Goodell is as big of a script writer as HHH - and a much less likeable one...

I give my passion to the NHL where the guys make a whole lot less coin and beat the hell out of each other for the love of the game and for the chance for the Cup - not for ESPN highlights or insane contracts.

AsylumGuido · 05-31-2025, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

I'd have to respectfully disagree. Goodell is a douchebag.

He's done nothing but make the NFL look like the WWE. Easily the worst commissioner in the big 4 sports in my lifetime.

I've seen so many $#$! calls by refs, so many stupid rule changes (we still don't know what pass interference is or what a catch is), so much woke BS, and so much greed that the NFL almost doesn't qualify as a legit sport.

And all this man can worry about is peddling the game on pay services or internationally while giving the middle finger to older fans like me. There is a tipping point where this is not going to work and I think he's getting close.

I love the Saints (being a Louisiana native) and will always want them to win, but I don't take the NFL seriously any longer. I think Goodell is as big of a script writer as HHH - and a much less likeable one...

I give my passion to the NHL where the guys make a whole lot less coin and beat the hell out of each other for the love of the game and for the chance for the Cup - not for ESPN highlights or insane contracts.

It doesn't matter one iota what you or I think about Goodell. He doesn't work for us. I despise the guy for the false bounty claims alone. But, like it or not, he is making money hand over fist for the owners AND the players and that is his job. The game is more popular than it's ever been. That is a fact.

I think it's great that you are passionate about the NHL. I personally don't care for it myself. I rank the major sports as for enjoyability in this order -- NFL, PGA, MLB, LPGA, NCAA football, WNBA and then the others if nothing else is available, including the History Channel.

arsaint · 05-31-2025, 01:32 PM

I don't disagree that he's raking in the money, but my thought is it is unsustainable.

I used to buy NFL merch all the time, have Sunday Ticket every year, and even attend games in the Dome periodically.

No more. The NFL has not see one thin dime out of my pockets since about 2018 and I don't think I am alone. The Taylor Swift fan base if fickle and will not always be there for the NFL.

The game is a shell of what I grew up watching. Maybe I lay too much of the blame on Goodell and not enough on the owners, but this game has been wussified and whored out to the $.

Folks should give the NHL a try. I never was much in to it because I did not understand the rules and the strategy. Once I watched enough to know that, it is an awesome game. And almost all of the players are just down to earth blue collar guys. Not the prima donas of the NFL or the thugs of the NBA.

05-20-2025, 05:47 AM	#2
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,808	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League More of a rant than a hot take, but he's right. For the record, I had Amazon Prime before they started broadcasting games and I have Peacock to watch the English Premier League. I don't think I would be signing up for those just for the NFL. I do wonder sometimes if they even care about ratings anymore. I mean if Amazon is going to give them a billion dollars to broadcast NFL games 1 day a week, do they even care if anyone watches? SmashMouth likes this.

05-20-2025, 09:36 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League Originally Posted by stickman More of a rant than a hot take, but he's right. For the record, I had Amazon Prime before they started broadcasting games and I have Peacock to watch the English Premier League. I don't think I would be signing up for those just for the NFL. I do wonder sometimes if they even care about ratings anymore. I mean if Amazon is going to give them a billion dollars to broadcast NFL games 1 day a week, do they even care if anyone watches? They definitely care about ratings and not just in the U.S., but also in the rest of America (southern, central, and Canada) and the rest of the world. I read the plan is to have 16 international games within a couple of years or so and 18 game seasons are pretty much a given. SmashMouth likes this.

05-23-2025, 09:54 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,555	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League The REF who was waving the flag That began with the MYSTICAL HAND (2009 NFCCG Remember?) Hip hooray! The NFL WAY The FIELD is a STAGE; the STAGE is a world of ENTERTAINMENT! The NFL "cares" about one thing, more venues equals more games equals MORE MONEY!!! Lay your money down easy, SMILE when they take it away!
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05-30-2025, 12:00 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League If the NFL wants more money, they should expand to 36 teams and realign to 6 divisions with 6 teams each.

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05-30-2025, 04:42 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League Originally Posted by arsaint Roger ruined the NFL. He worships the dollar at the expense of the fans and the game. He's simply doing the job that he was hired to do. It's the owners as a group that worship the almighty dollar. That's how they, or their family's all became wealthy enough to own a team. I for one cannot get enough of the NFL. I believe that is probably the prevalent viewpoint of NFL fans today. The game has never been more popular and the fans are eating it up more than ever.

05-30-2025, 05:43 PM	#8
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,743	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League I'd have to respectfully disagree. Goodell is a douchebag. He's done nothing but make the NFL look like the WWE. Easily the worst commissioner in the big 4 sports in my lifetime. I've seen so many $#$! calls by refs, so many stupid rule changes (we still don't know what pass interference is or what a catch is), so much woke BS, and so much greed that the NFL almost doesn't qualify as a legit sport. And all this man can worry about is peddling the game on pay services or internationally while giving the middle finger to older fans like me. There is a tipping point where this is not going to work and I think he's getting close. I love the Saints (being a Louisiana native) and will always want them to win, but I don't take the NFL seriously any longer. I think Goodell is as big of a script writer as HHH - and a much less likeable one... I give my passion to the NHL where the guys make a whole lot less coin and beat the hell out of each other for the love of the game and for the chance for the Cup - not for ESPN highlights or insane contracts. iceshack149 and SmashMouth like this.

05-31-2025, 12:06 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League Originally Posted by arsaint I'd have to respectfully disagree. Goodell is a douchebag. He's done nothing but make the NFL look like the WWE. Easily the worst commissioner in the big 4 sports in my lifetime. I've seen so many $#$! calls by refs, so many stupid rule changes (we still don't know what pass interference is or what a catch is), so much woke BS, and so much greed that the NFL almost doesn't qualify as a legit sport. And all this man can worry about is peddling the game on pay services or internationally while giving the middle finger to older fans like me. There is a tipping point where this is not going to work and I think he's getting close. I love the Saints (being a Louisiana native) and will always want them to win, but I don't take the NFL seriously any longer. I think Goodell is as big of a script writer as HHH - and a much less likeable one... I give my passion to the NHL where the guys make a whole lot less coin and beat the hell out of each other for the love of the game and for the chance for the Cup - not for ESPN highlights or insane contracts. It doesn't matter one iota what you or I think about Goodell. He doesn't work for us. I despise the guy for the false bounty claims alone. But, like it or not, he is making money hand over fist for the owners AND the players and that is his job. The game is more popular than it's ever been. That is a fact. I think it's great that you are passionate about the NHL. I personally don't care for it myself. I rank the major sports as for enjoyability in this order -- NFL, PGA, MLB, LPGA, NCAA football, WNBA and then the others if nothing else is available, including the History Channel.
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05-31-2025, 01:32 PM	#10
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,743	Re: NFL Has SERIOUS Problem as GREED is Destroying the League I don't disagree that he's raking in the money, but my thought is it is unsustainable. I used to buy NFL merch all the time, have Sunday Ticket every year, and even attend games in the Dome periodically. No more. The NFL has not see one thin dime out of my pockets since about 2018 and I don't think I am alone. The Taylor Swift fan base if fickle and will not always be there for the NFL. The game is a shell of what I grew up watching. Maybe I lay too much of the blame on Goodell and not enough on the owners, but this game has been wussified and whored out to the $. Folks should give the NHL a try. I never was much in to it because I did not understand the rules and the strategy. Once I watched enough to know that, it is an awesome game. And almost all of the players are just down to earth blue collar guys. Not the prima donas of the NFL or the thugs of the NBA.