But you don't know what happened, so yeah, you're pretty much jumping the gun wouldn't you agree, or do you know something the rest of us don't know? What if your boys were innocent? You know, ladies lead rich and famous guys on all the time and then change their tune for a pay day. Why are you so quick to assume one thing and not the other? Because you have daughters? That doesn't make it right. I have a daughter too by the way.

We're not talking about Ben...we're talking about someone else, or we might be talking about Michael Irvin who was accused but not charged recently, or Warren Sapp, who was accused but not charged recently.

The 'victim' is sometimes a crooked SOB, so maybe you should be a bit more discerning, bro.

i told you already i don't know so don't beat the dead horse, this crap gets to the public then vanishes when the big secret settlements done. does that make ben and foster guilty hell yea

Exhibit "A"

you are the winner of this debate i will proudly go away with tail between legs saintfan you drive home attorney knowledge and i cannot continue getting a ass whipping.