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Choupique · 11-12-2010, 11:11 AM

The FAILcans wouldn't have won if the refs would have had their glasses on.

saintfan · 11-12-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

As poorly as the Ravens played - they were still in the game.

Shoddy secondary really showed in Atlanta's last drive.

Frankly I think the shoddy officiating showed more. A questionable fingertip catch, but let's give them that one.

Gonzales deliberately caused the PI call that gave them a first down. It was a terrible call.

White pushed his defender town on the TD pass. It was clear, and it was clear in real time too. The officials blew that call.

I'll never really hold it against a team when they are 'lucky'. In many regards you create your own luck. Still, I'm not prepared to give Atlanta much credit for that win last night. That was more about the Ravens not playing well and the officials effing up at every opportunity.

saintsfan1976 · 11-12-2010, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Frankly I think the shoddy officiating showed more. A questionable fingertip catch, but let's give them that one.

Gonzales deliberately caused the PI call that gave them a first down. It was a terrible call.

White pushed his defender town on the TD pass. It was clear, and it was clear in real time too. The officials blew that call.

I'll never really hold it against a team when they are 'lucky'. In many regards you create your own luck. Still, I'm not prepared to give Atlanta much credit for that win last night. That was more about the Ravens not playing well and the officials effing up at every opportunity.

I feel ya - but when can you count on officiating to win a game for you? Ravens tried to throw too often instead of pounding Rice (which worked).

We got lucky last season too. And unlucky this season...

Regardless, I feel like the Saints are clicking and primed to make a run.

RaginCajun83 · 11-12-2010, 02:09 PM

No matter what they do, they will always be the FAILcons

SaintPauly · 11-12-2010, 04:00 PM

I have to admit, that the Atlanta favoritism is getting WAY out of control. No rings on his fingers, and Matt Ryan is the best Qb in the league? I'm not buying it. That drive should have ended on that bs pass interference call last night. The refs drove them down the field, NOT the team, and NOT Matt Ryan. Call it what you want, but that was just pathetic. Luck? It's real easy to get lucky, when the guys with the flags keep giving you more chances. There was a drive in the Cincy game, against Pitt, on Monday night, that was the same way. I don't care WHAT they are trying to do with parody, and keeping games close, and blah, blah, blah.... If they dont' get their crap together soon, I'm going to start fishing on sunday. If I want "controlled luck", I will watch Monday Night RAw, not Monday night football.

Danno · 11-12-2010, 05:39 PM

I know its IF's and BUT's but just think...if Hartley makes a glorified extra point, and Roddy White doesn't get away with a blatant push off, and Nate Clements simply runs OB on his pick...

Saints 7-2
Falcons 4-5

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-12-2010, 06:24 PM

Here's a scenario to ponder. Now before everyone starts the one-game-at-a-time rant, this is speculation from a fan, not attitude of the players on the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if Atl and the Saints are both favored in every game they play for the rest of the season (except for our heads up match of course, which I expect Atl to have the nod due to HFA). So IF we win that game and IF both teams win the rest of their other games, we will both be 13-3 with the same division and conference records having beat each other once. I haven't googled the tie breakers, but at that point I believe it comes down to strength of schedule. Having the Cowboys and Vikings suck may just end up biting us in the rear!

Danno · 11-12-2010, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Here's a scenario to ponder. Now before everyone starts the one-game-at-a-time rant, this is speculation from a fan, not attitude of the players on the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if Atl and the Saints are both favored in every game they play for the rest of the season (except for our heads up match of course, which I expect Atl to have the nod due to HFA). So IF we win that game and IF both teams win the rest of their other games, we will both be 13-3 with the same division and conference records having beat each other once. I haven't googled the tie breakers, but at that point I believe it comes down to strength of schedule. Having the Cowboys and Vikings suck may just end up biting us in the rear!

Common opponents, which they'd win because of our loss to Cleveland and Arizona, who they beat.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-12-2010, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Common opponents, which they'd win because of our loss to Cleveland and Arizona, who they beat.

Thanks

breesfan27 · 11-12-2010, 07:39 PM

I don't give a rat's ass how successful they are (or how everyone THINKS they are) they are nowhere NEAR the best team in the NFC. Just because they have the best record as of now means NOTHING. The win against us was on a technicality. Baltimore looked tired last night, the Bills could have beaten them. (Come to think of it, they almost did a few weeks back.)

I wouldn't trade 40 years of Saints bad luck and losses for one season of Falcons success.

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11-12-2010, 01:10 PM	#22
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 As poorly as the Ravens played - they were still in the game. Shoddy secondary really showed in Atlanta's last drive. Frankly I think the shoddy officiating showed more. A questionable fingertip catch, but let's give them that one. Gonzales deliberately caused the PI call that gave them a first down. It was a terrible call. White pushed his defender town on the TD pass. It was clear, and it was clear in real time too. The officials blew that call. I'll never really hold it against a team when they are 'lucky'. In many regards you create your own luck. Still, I'm not prepared to give Atlanta much credit for that win last night. That was more about the Ravens not playing well and the officials effing up at every opportunity.
	C'mon Man...

11-12-2010, 01:57 PM	#23
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan Frankly I think the shoddy officiating showed more. A questionable fingertip catch, but let's give them that one. Gonzales deliberately caused the PI call that gave them a first down. It was a terrible call. White pushed his defender town on the TD pass. It was clear, and it was clear in real time too. The officials blew that call. I'll never really hold it against a team when they are 'lucky'. In many regards you create your own luck. Still, I'm not prepared to give Atlanta much credit for that win last night. That was more about the Ravens not playing well and the officials effing up at every opportunity. I feel ya - but when can you count on officiating to win a game for you? Ravens tried to throw too often instead of pounding Rice (which worked). We got lucky last season too. And unlucky this season... Regardless, I feel like the Saints are clicking and primed to make a run.

11-12-2010, 04:00 PM	#25
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I have to admit, that the Atlanta favoritism is getting WAY out of control. No rings on his fingers, and Matt Ryan is the best Qb in the league? I'm not buying it. That drive should have ended on that bs pass interference call last night. The refs drove them down the field, NOT the team, and NOT Matt Ryan. Call it what you want, but that was just pathetic. Luck? It's real easy to get lucky, when the guys with the flags keep giving you more chances. There was a drive in the Cincy game, against Pitt, on Monday night, that was the same way. I don't care WHAT they are trying to do with parody, and keeping games close, and blah, blah, blah.... If they dont' get their crap together soon, I'm going to start fishing on sunday. If I want "controlled luck", I will watch Monday Night RAw, not Monday night football.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

11-12-2010, 06:24 PM	#27
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Here's a scenario to ponder. Now before everyone starts the one-game-at-a-time rant, this is speculation from a fan, not attitude of the players on the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if Atl and the Saints are both favored in every game they play for the rest of the season (except for our heads up match of course, which I expect Atl to have the nod due to HFA). So IF we win that game and IF both teams win the rest of their other games, we will both be 13-3 with the same division and conference records having beat each other once. I haven't googled the tie breakers, but at that point I believe it comes down to strength of schedule. Having the Cowboys and Vikings suck may just end up biting us in the rear!
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11-12-2010, 02:09 PM	#24
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	No matter what they do, they will always be the FAILcons

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11-12-2010, 06:42 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Here's a scenario to ponder. Now before everyone starts the one-game-at-a-time rant, this is speculation from a fan, not attitude of the players on the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if Atl and the Saints are both favored in every game they play for the rest of the season (except for our heads up match of course, which I expect Atl to have the nod due to HFA). So IF we win that game and IF both teams win the rest of their other games, we will both be 13-3 with the same division and conference records having beat each other once. I haven't googled the tie breakers, but at that point I believe it comes down to strength of schedule. Having the Cowboys and Vikings suck may just end up biting us in the rear! Common opponents, which they'd win because of our loss to Cleveland and Arizona, who they beat.

11-12-2010, 06:55 PM	#29
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Danno Common opponents, which they'd win because of our loss to Cleveland and Arizona, who they beat. Thanks
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11-12-2010, 07:39 PM	#30
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	I don't give a rat's ass how successful they are (or how everyone THINKS they are) they are nowhere NEAR the best team in the NFC. Just because they have the best record as of now means NOTHING. The win against us was on a technicality. Baltimore looked tired last night, the Bills could have beaten them. (Come to think of it, they almost did a few weeks back.) I wouldn't trade 40 years of Saints bad luck and losses for one season of Falcons success.