WOW, unbelievably bad act of sportsmanship on the Jets team

pherein · 12-13-2010, 01:40 AM

The footage

YouTube - Jets Assistant Coach Intentionally Trip Dolphins DB Nolan Carroll On Sidelines?

skymike · 12-13-2010, 08:50 AM

I agree with Old Maid. Dirty play is wrong, and this guy (he's a strenghth coach) has apparently O.D.'d on his own steriods. What an idiot. He'll go from being an obscure NFL assistant, to a much more obscure college or high school assistant, with the swift help of that one stupid move.

Better book yourself a spot on Letterman this week before your 15 minutes is up, a******.

If Rex Ryan has a speck of sense, he'll ditch this guy and wash his hands immediately.

Srgt. Hulka · 12-13-2010, 12:24 PM

I don't know Mike, I'm not even sure a high school would hire a sleazebag like that. I'm surprised he made it out of the stadium without getting the **** beat out of him.

73Saint · 12-13-2010, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I agree with Old Maid. Dirty play is wrong, and this guy (he's a strenghth coach) has apparently O.D.'d on his own steriods. What an idiot. He'll go from being an obscure NFL assistant, to a much more obscure college or high school assistant, with the swift help of that one stupid move.

Better book yourself a spot on Letterman this week before your 15 minutes is up, a******.

If Rex Ryan has a speck of sense, he'll ditch this guy and wash his hands immediately.

Could not have said it any better....

neugey · 12-13-2010, 04:21 PM

There were 5 other Jets guys standing just as close to the field as Alosi was - as close as they could be without getting into the white area. Almost like the Jets coaches/staff were trying to make this happen or standing that close because someone told them to.

This is one beef I have always had with football and basketball in general - spectators such as coaches, bench players and cheerleaders are really too close to the field of play. Especially in football where you have players in full padding and helmets running into un-armored people. We remember the incident with the chain guy the other week. And basketball might actually be more dangerous with some of the spectators sitting that close in chairs or even on the floor. Sports such as hockey and tennis are safer, with spectators out of harms way.

If NFL is concerned with overall safety more than $$$, they should at least double the width of that white out-of-bounds boundary. Because as fishy as the Jets' actions were, it was legal and they were not in the field of play or in the restricted white area.

I don't understand this rampant egotism having cameramen, cheerleaders, fans, bench players, coaches all so close to the action. Except for perhaps basketball coaches, there is no reason that any spectators need to be that close. Make these sports safer before someone - player or spectator - gets killed. Especially in these days of luxurious box suites and larger and extravagant venues ... shouldn't there be ample space to protect the players and spectators?!

Sorry for the rant, but I feel like the Jets are taking a huge and unfair rap for a problem that is inherent, with or without Alosi's or the Jets' intent. This wasn't exactly a Nancy Kerrigan incident.

skymike · 12-13-2010, 04:32 PM

no way, Noog. This was a clear case of right vs. wrong.

If being up close to football scares you, you should have had my childhood. Rodeo. Oh yeah. I was 8, maybe 9 sitting behind the bucking chutes, and there would be a 800 lb angry bull going nuts, while the cowboys were putting the straps around them. Im about
3 feet away from the bull, sitting on a rail. And you know, sometimes the bull just decides he wants to try to jump over the railing. Did I mention
I was chewing tobacco? 9 yrs old. Not one person said, "Hey kid, this is a bad place for you to sit."

You know? I miss the old days. This is why I have such a problem with safety gadgets and safety rules now.

Viva Arena Ball, where the players can run on top of you.

Srgt. Hulka · 12-13-2010, 05:00 PM

I'm with SkyMike on this Neuguy. All of the Jets coaches were standing legally on the sideline, including Alosi. This Alosi punk purposely put his knee out there with the intent of tripping or interfering with Nolan Carroll. Carroll ended up injured on the play. What if Alosi stuck his foot out there, instead of his knee. Would you feel different? What if a player of the apposing team tripped him? Would that be different? No. If Alosi accidentally tripped him while trying to get out of the way, you might have an argument, but this sorry scumbag took it upon himself to go out of his way to intentionally interfere with Carroll. I hope we never see this piece of **** on the sideline again.

neugey · 12-13-2010, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

I'm with SkyMike on this Neuguy. All of the Jets coaches were standing legally on the sideline, including Alosi. This Alosi punk purposely put his knee out there with the intent of tripping or interfering with Nolan Carroll. Carroll ended up injured on the play. What if Alosi stuck his foot out there, instead of his knee. Would you feel different? What if a player of the apposing team tripped him? Would that be different? No. If Alosi accidentally tripped him while trying to get out of the way, you might have an argument, but this sorry scumbag took it upon himself to go out of his way to intentionally interfere with Carroll. I hope we never see this piece of **** on the sideline again.

I'm not saying Alosi shouldn't be punished. He should be punished because it's obvious he leaned forward to trip the guy. My point is 1) if there are other people with tendencies like Alosi out there, we should keep them further away from the field of play so BS like this doesn't happen and 2) if the NFL is trying to make the game more safe, then why aren't they trying to make the game more safe?

skymike · 12-13-2010, 05:36 PM

ohhh... i see... Im with you on that, Noog. There are too many people on the field. Who are all those people, and why do they all need to be on the field? But you gotta admit there are people who should be there. We should just take a little more care.

I will guard the Saintsations, and make sure nobody runs into them.

ScottF · 12-13-2010, 05:48 PM

There is dirty, and there is this. Sorry, can't align myself with the contingent that sees the humor in this.

You have one guy doing his job, and you have a coward who deliberately tries to hurt him. Fine the Jets $200 grand and let them discipline their own employee. And then pay Carroll's legal fees in his suit against Alosi.

12-13-2010, 12:36 PM	#24
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Originally Posted by skymike I agree with Old Maid. Dirty play is wrong, and this guy (he's a strenghth coach) has apparently O.D.'d on his own steriods. What an idiot. He'll go from being an obscure NFL assistant, to a much more obscure college or high school assistant, with the swift help of that one stupid move. Better book yourself a spot on Letterman this week before your 15 minutes is up, a******. If Rex Ryan has a speck of sense, he'll ditch this guy and wash his hands immediately. Could not have said it any better....

12-13-2010, 05:00 PM	#27
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	I'm with SkyMike on this Neuguy. All of the Jets coaches were standing legally on the sideline, including Alosi. This Alosi punk purposely put his knee out there with the intent of tripping or interfering with Nolan Carroll. Carroll ended up injured on the play. What if Alosi stuck his foot out there, instead of his knee. Would you feel different? What if a player of the apposing team tripped him? Would that be different? No. If Alosi accidentally tripped him while trying to get out of the way, you might have an argument, but this sorry scumbag took it upon himself to go out of his way to intentionally interfere with Carroll. I hope we never see this piece of **** on the sideline again.
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12-13-2010, 05:34 PM	#28
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,726 Blog Entries: 13	Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka I'm with SkyMike on this Neuguy. All of the Jets coaches were standing legally on the sideline, including Alosi. This Alosi punk purposely put his knee out there with the intent of tripping or interfering with Nolan Carroll. Carroll ended up injured on the play. What if Alosi stuck his foot out there, instead of his knee. Would you feel different? What if a player of the apposing team tripped him? Would that be different? No. If Alosi accidentally tripped him while trying to get out of the way, you might have an argument, but this sorry scumbag took it upon himself to go out of his way to intentionally interfere with Carroll. I hope we never see this piece of **** on the sideline again. I'm not saying Alosi shouldn't be punished. He should be punished because it's obvious he leaned forward to trip the guy. My point is 1) if there are other people with tendencies like Alosi out there, we should keep them further away from the field of play so BS like this doesn't happen and 2) if the NFL is trying to make the game more safe, then why aren't they trying to make the game more safe?

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12-13-2010, 08:50 AM	#22
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	I agree with Old Maid. Dirty play is wrong, and this guy (he's a strenghth coach) has apparently O.D.'d on his own steriods. What an idiot. He'll go from being an obscure NFL assistant, to a much more obscure college or high school assistant, with the swift help of that one stupid move. Better book yourself a spot on Letterman this week before your 15 minutes is up, a******. If Rex Ryan has a speck of sense, he'll ditch this guy and wash his hands immediately.

12-13-2010, 12:24 PM	#23
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	I don't know Mike, I'm not even sure a high school would hire a sleazebag like that. I'm surprised he made it out of the stadium without getting the **** beat out of him.

12-13-2010, 04:21 PM	#25
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,726 Blog Entries: 13	There were 5 other Jets guys standing just as close to the field as Alosi was - as close as they could be without getting into the white area. Almost like the Jets coaches/staff were trying to make this happen or standing that close because someone told them to. This is one beef I have always had with football and basketball in general - spectators such as coaches, bench players and cheerleaders are really too close to the field of play. Especially in football where you have players in full padding and helmets running into un-armored people. We remember the incident with the chain guy the other week. And basketball might actually be more dangerous with some of the spectators sitting that close in chairs or even on the floor. Sports such as hockey and tennis are safer, with spectators out of harms way. If NFL is concerned with overall safety more than $$$, they should at least double the width of that white out-of-bounds boundary. Because as fishy as the Jets' actions were, it was legal and they were not in the field of play or in the restricted white area. I don't understand this rampant egotism having cameramen, cheerleaders, fans, bench players, coaches all so close to the action. Except for perhaps basketball coaches, there is no reason that any spectators need to be that close. Make these sports safer before someone - player or spectator - gets killed. Especially in these days of luxurious box suites and larger and extravagant venues ... shouldn't there be ample space to protect the players and spectators?! Sorry for the rant, but I feel like the Jets are taking a huge and unfair rap for a problem that is inherent, with or without Alosi's or the Jets' intent. This wasn't exactly a Nancy Kerrigan incident.

12-13-2010, 04:32 PM	#26
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	no way, Noog. This was a clear case of right vs. wrong. If being up close to football scares you, you should have had my childhood. Rodeo. Oh yeah. I was 8, maybe 9 sitting behind the bucking chutes, and there would be a 800 lb angry bull going nuts, while the cowboys were putting the straps around them. Im about 3 feet away from the bull, sitting on a rail. And you know, sometimes the bull just decides he wants to try to jump over the railing. Did I mention I was chewing tobacco? 9 yrs old. Not one person said, "Hey kid, this is a bad place for you to sit." You know? I miss the old days. This is why I have such a problem with safety gadgets and safety rules now. Viva Arena Ball, where the players can run on top of you.

12-13-2010, 05:36 PM	#29
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	ohhh... i see... Im with you on that, Noog. There are too many people on the field. Who are all those people, and why do they all need to be on the field? But you gotta admit there are people who should be there. We should just take a little more care. I will guard the Saintsations, and make sure nobody runs into them.

12-13-2010, 05:48 PM	#30
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	There is dirty, and there is this. Sorry, can't align myself with the contingent that sees the humor in this. You have one guy doing his job, and you have a coward who deliberately tries to hurt him. Fine the Jets $200 grand and let them discipline their own employee. And then pay Carroll's legal fees in his suit against Alosi.