QBREES9

are there any QBs who have won 2 championships NOT in the Hall of Fame?

I think Jim Plunkett.

OldMaid

Oakland Raider Jim Plunket should be a HoF'er. The NFL was so different during Jim's day too with rules, fewer teams, more true grit of football.

Eli Manning, Hof, I am going to most probably. That is a long way off. I do think EM is an Elite qb. The two SB wins a qb, but he was qb of a tem, the same team, and won over NEP 's team of Belicheck, Brady and others.
HoF is based on overall career.
EM's career is not over yet.
HoF is based on player's individual stats too.
I don't about EM's individual stats.

He has come a long way personally from acting like a classless whinney baby throwing down SD Chargers hat at the draft.
I thought that was really bad in front of the press and was something he, his dad, and handlers should have handled behind the scenes.

Career wise, EM has come a long way. He plays in a tough market. Remember the NYPost front page after losing so big to the Saints? Thats' NYC for ya'.
He has been consistently upward.


It is hard to say who will be a HoF'er when the person is still out thre.
It takes some years for nomination too.

I look for Saints Morten Anderson to be a HoF'er.
Was Tom Dempsey ever nominated?

SloMotion

Oh yeah ... you know, I still associate Jim Plunkett with New England even though his best years were with the Raiders ... he should be a HOF'er.

Ok, so know we got a QB with 2 SuperBowl rings not in the HOF ... compare Eli to Plunkett, not statwise, but just put them side by side. They're both that "no-frills, get-er-done, gritty" kind of QB ... could set be a bad omen for Eli.

Dempsey should be in the HOF just for that one kick ... they let Joe Namath in for winning SuperBowl III, other then that, Broadway Joe was not a HOF QB.

Another serious HOF snub is towards Ray Guy ... how can they keep passing him over?