Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)

Joker · 03-23-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by xan

That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract?

Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further.

I agree with you 100%

Danno · 03-23-2013, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by xan

That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract?

Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further.

Well since we didn't sign him we obviously didn't overpay or cripple us further.

At least not yet.

FinSaint · 03-23-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by xan

That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract?

Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further.

Him not having signed a contract yet doesn't necessarily have anything to do with teams not believing he's still capable of being a starter caliber CB - that's a far fetched correlation without any supporting evidence.

The fact that it has been reported that both the 49ers and the Saints have offered him a contract would suggest that at least those two teams feel like Asomugha would be a positive addition to their rosters. And those are the only two teams he has officially visited with, so who's to say that even more teams wouldn't have been keen on having him on their roster? I think that since Asomugha clearly made the wrong choice last time around choosing to sign with the Eagles, he's taking his time this time around to be certain that he chooses the right place for him to have the best success at.

You can't really blame the guy for doing that if the 49ers and the Saints haven't given him any deadlines for when he has to make up his mind - and that would suggest that he isn't going to be asking for a mega-deal.

frydaddy · 03-23-2013, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by xan

That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract?

Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further.

Ineptitude in man?..... Ya know, I do my best to remain civil at all times, but I'm gonna break character this time and just say shut up. Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. 2 years in an awful system, coached by a DC who knew as much about defense as you probably do.. here's a little news break for ya, a lot of star power went to waste in that s#!t pile of a city.

I reeeaaaally wish we had a dislike button

xan · 03-23-2013, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Ineptitude in man?..... Ya know, I do my best to remain civil at all times, but I'm gonna break character this time and just say shut up. Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. 2 years in an awful system, coached by a DC who knew as much about defense as you probably do.. here's a little news break for ya, a lot of star power went to waste in that s#!t pile of a city.

I reeeaaaally wish we had a dislike button

Sorry to grind your gears, man. As I am stuck in Jersey with the Eagles being my Guantanamo torture for 20 weeks, I got a front row ticket to his performances. As a primo Eagles hater, I thought it a shame they let him go. His hugely undeserved salary squeezed out any ability to sign other capable players.

In Oakland, the other DB's were so bad by comparison that it wasn't worth throwing his direction as the payouts were so much better against the other backs. The opposing team's strategies made it appear that Numbdi was better than he really was. With the Eagles, there was definitely more talent in their defensive backfield. So more teams took chances his way, and he got exposed. It got worse as their season progressed - when you got him isolated, he was vulnerable. You could attribute it to scheme, but man coverage is man coverage. You could attribute it to "disinterest in the circumstances," but if he has that "I got mine" attitude, which it appeared, (it is not clear that he had enough pride to show up and do the job he was overpaid to do) then who would want him?

I'm not hating on him. I think he's an average NFL caliber player. But he is what WR's of the Keyshawn/Ochocinqo ilk are, media creations. The prettiest troll under the bridge is still a troll.

Seer1 · 03-23-2013, 12:28 PM

I'll go with Ryan's opinion of him for now. He's been offered a contract which says it all. He's not hurting for money and I think he's really working at deciding where he's going to be happiest. I'd bet the offers are similar, the Saints' and niners' idea of how to use him are also very similar, the chances of winning a ring with both teams are similar so it's going to boil down to where he thinks'll be the best place to be. As Xan so eloquently put it in his comparison of Philly to Guantanamo after 20 weeks, imagine 2 years there. He's not going to make that same mistake. Not signing is saying nothing more than he's going to be very careful this time up. He's been given a deadline by both teams and he'll probably take most of that (unless he has Dumervil's ex-agent) before he makes a final decision.

Mr.Riaton · 03-23-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by nycsaintfan

I don't mind if we can sign a guy like Nnamdi. But our problem is the front 7... not so much corner back. New coordinator or not, you can't mask the fact that the same players who have not been able to give you a pass rush the past few seasons are still here.

I don't care who we have playing corner for us. In todays game, most secondary's are going struggle without a good pass rush.

And some quality safety help on the back side would help our corners too. I Really want Vacarro....then again,I REALLY want j.jones! I wish we could find a way to get 2 first rounders.....especially in this draft.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-23-2013, 01:43 PM

Nnamdi is still looking at Niners, Saints | ProFootballTalk
Eight days ago, it appeared that cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and safety Charles Woodson seemed destined to join the 49ers.

Eight days later, crickets.

But Asomugha continues to consider the 49ers and the Saints as a potential next destination, per a source with knowledge of the situation. Other teams had expressed interest in Asomugha, but no other visits have been taken.

The Saints make sense, given the presence of former Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. Now running the defense in New Orleans, Ryan wants a Nnamdi reunion.

The depressed market for corners, along with questions about Asomugha’s skills and his interest level in football, surely have made it harder to do the right deal. Then there’s the $4 million that Asomugha already will make from the Eagles in 2013; the cash in hand could tempt teams to low ball Asomugha.That said, knowing he’ll make $4 million this year allows Asomugha to be patient. With the top of the market at $6 million annually, getting $4 million to not play at all provides an attractive alternative.

*sigh*

TheOak · 03-23-2013, 01:48 PM

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saintsfan1976 · 03-23-2013, 01:57 PM

Patient yes, unrealistic NO

03-23-2013, 09:57 AM	#481
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by xan That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract? Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further. I agree with you 100%

03-23-2013, 10:01 AM	#482
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by xan That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract? Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further. Well since we didn't sign him we obviously didn't overpay or cripple us further. At least not yet. Joker likes this.

03-23-2013, 10:06 AM	#483
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by xan That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract? Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further. Him not having signed a contract yet doesn't necessarily have anything to do with teams not believing he's still capable of being a starter caliber CB - that's a far fetched correlation without any supporting evidence. The fact that it has been reported that both the 49ers and the Saints have offered him a contract would suggest that at least those two teams feel like Asomugha would be a positive addition to their rosters. And those are the only two teams he has officially visited with, so who's to say that even more teams wouldn't have been keen on having him on their roster? I think that since Asomugha clearly made the wrong choice last time around choosing to sign with the Eagles, he's taking his time this time around to be certain that he chooses the right place for him to have the best success at. You can't really blame the guy for doing that if the 49ers and the Saints haven't given him any deadlines for when he has to make up his mind - and that would suggest that he isn't going to be asking for a mega-deal. frydaddy likes this.
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03-23-2013, 10:38 AM	#484
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by xan That he hasn't signed yet should be a huge tell. Clearly teams have seen the hysterical tapes of his ineptitude in man or zone coverage, his lack of desire to tackle, and his overall confusion. If he was even half as good as he was hyped to be he would have been worth keeping by the Fecals. Three weeks in and no contract? Yeah, sign him. Over pay. Cripple us further. Ineptitude in man?..... Ya know, I do my best to remain civil at all times, but I'm gonna break character this time and just say shut up. Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. 2 years in an awful system, coached by a DC who knew as much about defense as you probably do.. here's a little news break for ya, a lot of star power went to waste in that s#!t pile of a city. I reeeaaaally wish we had a dislike button xan likes this.

03-23-2013, 11:28 AM	#485
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by frydaddy Ineptitude in man?..... Ya know, I do my best to remain civil at all times, but I'm gonna break character this time and just say shut up. Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. 2 years in an awful system, coached by a DC who knew as much about defense as you probably do.. here's a little news break for ya, a lot of star power went to waste in that s#!t pile of a city. I reeeaaaally wish we had a dislike button Sorry to grind your gears, man. As I am stuck in Jersey with the Eagles being my Guantanamo torture for 20 weeks, I got a front row ticket to his performances. As a primo Eagles hater, I thought it a shame they let him go. His hugely undeserved salary squeezed out any ability to sign other capable players. In Oakland, the other DB's were so bad by comparison that it wasn't worth throwing his direction as the payouts were so much better against the other backs. The opposing team's strategies made it appear that Numbdi was better than he really was. With the Eagles, there was definitely more talent in their defensive backfield. So more teams took chances his way, and he got exposed. It got worse as their season progressed - when you got him isolated, he was vulnerable. You could attribute it to scheme, but man coverage is man coverage. You could attribute it to "disinterest in the circumstances," but if he has that "I got mine" attitude, which it appeared, (it is not clear that he had enough pride to show up and do the job he was overpaid to do) then who would want him? I'm not hating on him. I think he's an average NFL caliber player. But he is what WR's of the Keyshawn/Ochocinqo ilk are, media creations. The prettiest troll under the bridge is still a troll.
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03-23-2013, 12:28 PM	#486
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha I'll go with Ryan's opinion of him for now. He's been offered a contract which says it all. He's not hurting for money and I think he's really working at deciding where he's going to be happiest. I'd bet the offers are similar, the Saints' and niners' idea of how to use him are also very similar, the chances of winning a ring with both teams are similar so it's going to boil down to where he thinks'll be the best place to be. As Xan so eloquently put it in his comparison of Philly to Guantanamo after 20 weeks, imagine 2 years there. He's not going to make that same mistake. Not signing is saying nothing more than he's going to be very careful this time up. He's been given a deadline by both teams and he'll probably take most of that (unless he has Dumervil's ex-agent) before he makes a final decision.
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03-23-2013, 01:37 PM	#487
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha Originally Posted by nycsaintfan I don't mind if we can sign a guy like Nnamdi. But our problem is the front 7... not so much corner back. New coordinator or not, you can't mask the fact that the same players who have not been able to give you a pass rush the past few seasons are still here. I don't care who we have playing corner for us. In todays game, most secondary's are going struggle without a good pass rush. And some quality safety help on the back side would help our corners too. I Really want Vacarro....then again,I REALLY want j.jones! I wish we could find a way to get 2 first rounders.....especially in this draft.

03-23-2013, 01:43 PM	#488
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: PFT-Bryant McKinnie, Nnamdi Asomugha on Saints’ radar Nnamdi is still looking at Niners, Saints \| ProFootballTalk Eight days ago, it appeared that cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and safety Charles Woodson seemed destined to join the 49ers. Eight days later, crickets. But Asomugha continues to consider the 49ers and the Saints as a potential next destination, per a source with knowledge of the situation. Other teams had expressed interest in Asomugha, but no other visits have been taken. The Saints make sense, given the presence of former Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. Now running the defense in New Orleans, Ryan wants a Nnamdi reunion. The depressed market for corners, along with questions about Asomugha’s skills and his interest level in football, surely have made it harder to do the right deal. Then there’s the $4 million that Asomugha already will make from the Eagles in 2013; the cash in hand could tempt teams to low ball Asomugha.That said, knowing he’ll make $4 million this year allows Asomugha to be patient. With the top of the market at $6 million annually, getting $4 million to not play at all provides an attractive alternative. sigh
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03-23-2013, 01:48 PM	#489
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