Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis

ProMallNinja · 04-22-2013, 08:15 AM

I think that this trade/signing was as much of a publicity stunt as anything else for TB. Their fan base is abysmal, and I think that it could help them sell a few tickets to have one of the league's "superstars" on the field. They had the cap space & only have up an arm and a finger instead of an arm and a leg. They still have around $8.5M in cap space. It'll be ok for them. The better question for TB is do they have a "big time" QB that can get it done against the division's other "big time" QBs? That's to be determined.

Mardigras9 · 04-22-2013, 10:24 AM

That just helps TB stop Brees on one reciever, he is not the answer TB, sorry.

|Mitch| · 04-22-2013, 10:35 AM

Revis may not be the answer for the Buccaneers, but if he is 100% after the ACL injury it's a step in the right direction.

And the Bucs have him signed to a very friendly no-guaranteed money contract, so should it not work out they can cut him without penalty...

papz · 04-22-2013, 01:06 PM

I would never ever ever ever pay a corner back 16 million a season. Ever.

Papa Voodoo · 04-22-2013, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I do agree with you on that the Jets should've probably gotten more out of this deal, but they just didn't have the leverage or enough potential suitors to drive up the price.

Still, $16M/yr for a DB is way too much money even if one has the cap space for such a move.

Seems like the Clements and Asomghoua deals would have made this point clear to teams. Deion Sanders is the last CB I have seen that would actually be worth this much due to his skill. Teams don't win Superbowls because of the cornerbacks. We did it with guys signed off of the street.

K Major · 04-22-2013, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Seems like the Clements and Asomghoua deals would have made this point clear to teams. Deion Sanders is the last CB I have seen that would actually be worth this much due to his skill. Teams don't win Superbowls because of the cornerbacks. We did it with guys signed off of the street.

+1. This trade would make more sense to me if it had been the 49ers/Broncos who are a player or two away from winning a SB but not the Bucs. They have a plethora of needs & holes to fill but the cornerback play is only one of many.

TheOak · 04-23-2013, 07:04 AM

No
Never

Pick one:

Why spend 16M for one side of the field, when you could cover both sides with equal talent for the same 16M.

You don't pay 16M to someone that doesn't touch the ball.

Pass rushers are more important than CBs.

I'm not going to get into the Ditka of the rest of what they gave up.

lee909 · 04-23-2013, 07:15 AM

16ml is the guts of 2 good CB and a safety.Revis is a major talent,but if the have front loaded the deal he will be after a restructure before it ends.

Jamessr · 04-23-2013, 08:30 AM

After listening to Nick Cattles in the Virginia Beach area it didn't seem all that bad.

1. If you believe he was better than any body they possibly could have gotten in the 1st round it was a good move.
2. If you can afford him and still have money room it was a good move.
3. They can walk away 1-2 years from now with zero guaranteed money.. it was a good deal
4. Revis was brought in because 6 games in thier pass happy divison will help.

Not saying I would have wanted to do this but I don't think TB got the bad of a deal

TheOak · 04-23-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

After listening to Nick Cattles in the Virginia Beach area it didn't seem all that bad.

1. If you believe he was better than any body they possibly could have gotten in the 1st round it was a good move.
2. If you can afford him and still have money room it was a good move.
3. They can walk away 1-2 years from now with zero guaranteed money.. it was a good deal
4. Revis was brought in because 6 games in thier pass happy divison will help.

Not saying I would have wanted to do this but I don't think TB got the bad of a deal

1-4 Revis can not eff3ect 6 games when we are burning the other side of the field.
2-3 They Ditka'd away draft picks... That has nothing to do with Cap, money, and you cant get them back if you walk away from him in 1-2 years.

Signs of desperation, however just like Atlanta and Houston... You can bring in anything you want, with out the Coach your not winning any more games or going any further in the playoffs.

04-22-2013, 08:15 AM	#31
ProMallNinja Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 242	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis I think that this trade/signing was as much of a publicity stunt as anything else for TB. Their fan base is abysmal, and I think that it could help them sell a few tickets to have one of the league's "superstars" on the field. They had the cap space & only have up an arm and a finger instead of an arm and a leg. They still have around $8.5M in cap space. It'll be ok for them. The better question for TB is do they have a "big time" QB that can get it done against the division's other "big time" QBs? That's to be determined.

04-22-2013, 10:24 AM	#32
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis That just helps TB stop Brees on one reciever, he is not the answer TB, sorry.

04-22-2013, 10:35 AM	#33
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis Revis may not be the answer for the Buccaneers, but if he is 100% after the ACL injury it's a step in the right direction. And the Bucs have him signed to a very friendly no-guaranteed money contract, so should it not work out they can cut him without penalty...

04-22-2013, 01:06 PM	#34
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,756	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis I would never ever ever ever pay a corner back 16 million a season. Ever. Crusader, TheOak and frydaddy like this.

04-22-2013, 02:00 PM	#35
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis Originally Posted by FinSaint I do agree with you on that the Jets should've probably gotten more out of this deal, but they just didn't have the leverage or enough potential suitors to drive up the price. Still, $16M/yr for a DB is way too much money even if one has the cap space for such a move. Seems like the Clements and Asomghoua deals would have made this point clear to teams. Deion Sanders is the last CB I have seen that would actually be worth this much due to his skill. Teams don't win Superbowls because of the cornerbacks. We did it with guys signed off of the street. K Major likes this.

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04-22-2013, 02:14 PM	#36
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Seems like the Clements and Asomghoua deals would have made this point clear to teams. Deion Sanders is the last CB I have seen that would actually be worth this much due to his skill. Teams don't win Superbowls because of the cornerbacks. We did it with guys signed off of the street. +1. This trade would make more sense to me if it had been the 49ers/Broncos who are a player or two away from winning a SB but not the Bucs. They have a plethora of needs & holes to fill but the cornerback play is only one of many.

04-23-2013, 07:04 AM	#37
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis No Never Pick one: Why spend 16M for one side of the field, when you could cover both sides with equal talent for the same 16M. You don't pay 16M to someone that doesn't touch the ball. Pass rushers are more important than CBs. I'm not going to get into the Ditka of the rest of what they gave up. Danno likes this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,829 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis 16ml is the guts of 2 good CB and a safety.Revis is a major talent,but if the have front loaded the deal he will be after a restructure before it ends.

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis After listening to Nick Cattles in the Virginia Beach area it didn't seem all that bad. 1. If you believe he was better than any body they possibly could have gotten in the 1st round it was a good move. 2. If you can afford him and still have money room it was a good move. 3. They can walk away 1-2 years from now with zero guaranteed money.. it was a good deal 4. Revis was brought in because 6 games in thier pass happy divison will help. Not saying I would have wanted to do this but I don't think TB got the bad of a deal
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04-23-2013, 09:19 AM	#40
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Wow Bucs traded the house for Revis Originally Posted by Jamessr After listening to Nick Cattles in the Virginia Beach area it didn't seem all that bad. 1. If you believe he was better than any body they possibly could have gotten in the 1st round it was a good move. 2. If you can afford him and still have money room it was a good move. 3. They can walk away 1-2 years from now with zero guaranteed money.. it was a good deal 4. Revis was brought in because 6 games in thier pass happy divison will help. Not saying I would have wanted to do this but I don't think TB got the bad of a deal 1-4 Revis can not eff3ect 6 games when we are burning the other side of the field. 2-3 They Ditka'd away draft picks... That has nothing to do with Cap, money, and you cant get them back if you walk away from him in 1-2 years. Signs of desperation, however just like Atlanta and Houston... You can bring in anything you want, with out the Coach your not winning any more games or going any further in the playoffs. Papa Voodoo likes this.

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