Actually a thug is a violent person, especially a criminal; meaning you can be considered a thug without being a criminal. But get as technical with the meaning of words all you want. I was born in 1990. Never saw those teams. But I do know I'm right. So I wont argue about it.

The origin of "thug" is Hindi 'thag'.. litteraly thief. First known use 1810
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Merriam-webster:
Definition of THUG
: a brutal ruffian or assassin


Sorry, I do not buy slang.. Or loose miss-interpretations.

In any account, that sort adds nothing to a team based on that premiss.

Brutal ruffian sounds a lot like what I said. There are gang members on the Saints as we speak bro; Gangster Disciples, Bloods, Crips, and Vice Lords I know several guys in both the collegiate and pro level and 60% of them were what would be called "thuggin" where I come from. The NFL is not filled with high character guys, its filled with actors and rehearsed answers.

And they don't take that sh1t on the field... Which negates your original point "You need a couple of thugs in the mix."

Didn't we just argue about Deion? Damn man, we've been going back and forth since yesterday. You want to just be friends or something?

Sure. Beer @ 5?

I don't drink, but I'll still hang out though.

I'm in Houston.... Not sure if I could make it by 5 anyway.

I am it would seem 20 years older and come from a different time or maybe a different culture. When I grew up my roll models and heroes were my mother, grandfathers, and my stepfather. Not because they were famous, cool, or wealthy. It was because they had character and worked hard at taking care of the people that relied upon them with out complaint.

Look.... I fully understand your point and where you are coming from. However, the NFL and the military (im ex military) are similar in the respect that a % of the employees have questionable personalities and prior allegiances. Those things rarely translate to the football or battle field, there are rules and equalizers, and their opponents don't care or recognize what ever they were before they put on the uniform.

There are only 3 people off of the top of my head that were as much a badass at work as they were outside of work.... Lawrence Taylor, Mike Tyson, and Ray Lewis.... Teams steer clear of that as much as possible; not because they are a liability but because it usually equates to more bad habits that have to be broken.

Most thugs aren't bad asses at all, it's a front, a facade that they need to survive where they come from. They rarely come alone empty handed to a fight... This is why I say it adds no value on the field.