Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper

spkb25 · 08-04-2013, 09:12 AM

Just want to make sure I have it right...
Murder and torture animals play for Eagles
Use a word and might lose your job
That does make sense

rezburna · 08-04-2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Just want to make sure I have it right...
Murder and torture animals play for Eagles
Use a word and might lose your job
That does make sense

Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals.

My opinion, Riley shouldn't be punished at all. And no, not because of this stupid reasoning that "they say it all the time" or "listen to the rappers". He shouldn't be punished because its a word, and black people such as myself need to stop trying to tell people what they can or can't say. People should be able to say what they want, and in turn be willing to accept whatever reaction they garner from a person. You want to say it, then take your chances. Because I've been saying it my whole life and have never had a problem, so there's no cause for me to stop. If a white person says it to me, I'm a little uneasy, but not offended. He's got to deal with the rest of the league now on the field. That's punishment enough.

TheOak · 08-04-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals.

My opinion, Riley shouldn't be punished at all. And no, not because of this stupid reasoning that "they say it all the time" or "listen to the rappers". He shouldn't be punished because its a word, and black people such as myself need to stop trying to tell people what they can or can't say. People should be able to say what they want, and in turn be willing to accept whatever reaction they garner from a person. You want to say it, then take your chances. Because I've been saying it my whole life and have never had a problem, so there's no cause for me to stop. If a white person says it to me, I'm a little uneasy, but not offended. He's got to deal with the rest of the league now on the field. That's punishment enough.

There is a fundamental difference between animals dying for food/sport quickly and humanely , and dying in an illegal sport for entertainment slowly and painfully for profit.

Vick tortured those dogs.

rezburna · 08-04-2013, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

There is a fundamental difference between animals dying for food/sport quickly and humanely , and dying in an illegal sport for entertainment slowly and painfully for profit.

Vick tortured those dogs.

We don't know if Vick tortured anything. He didn't go to jail for animal cruelty. He went to jail for hosting an illegal gambling ring.

Killing for food is one thing, but killing for sport is no different. You're killing an animal for your own pleasure. Because you want to. Because you enjoy killing the animal.

Mind you, I don't care if people hunt, kill, or torture animals in the 1st place. I'm not an animal sympathizer. Is it unnecessary? Yeah. Do I really care? Nah. If you want to hunt, hunt. Want to fight pitbulls, fight pitbulls. Roy Jones does the rooster fighting. Its all the same.

Just my opinion.

TheOak · 08-04-2013, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We don't know if Vick tortured anything. He didn't go to jail for animal cruelty. He went to jail for hosting an illegal gambling ring.

Killing for food is one thing, but killing for sport is no different. You're killing an animal for your own pleasure. Because you want to. Because you enjoy killing the animal.

Mind you, I don't care if people hunt, kill, or torture animals in the 1st place. I'm not an animal sympathizer. Is it unnecessary? Yeah. Do I really care? Nah. If you want to hunt, hunt. Want to fight pitbulls, fight pitbulls. Roy Jones does the rooster fighting. Its all the same.

Just my opinion.

Your opinion lack based other than you think so.

There is a huge difference, it's called waste.

If I hunt a cow for food it is the same as a slaughterhouse putting beef on the table...
If I hunt a cow and leave the meat to rot it is illegal and wasteful.

What he did was illegal .. Some would say that is difference enough and reason to go to jail... Breaking the law that is.

When enough people do illegal things, the government starts to take away the rights of the lawful.

spkb25 · 08-04-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals.

.

I'm not going to stand here and pretend or allow you to pretend that there isn't context to the two events. Murdering an animal because it is threatening you, your family, your way of life, or killing for food does not fall into the same category as torturing and murdering animals for sport. That isn't an opinion it is a fact.

Mike Vick should have went to jail. Mike Vick should have been allowed to play for any team willing to employ him.

rezburna · 08-04-2013, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I'm not going to stand here and pretend or allow you to pretend that there isn't context to the two events. Murdering an animal because it is threatening you, your family, your way of life, or killing for food does not fall into the same category as torturing and murdering animals for sport. That isn't an opinion it is a fact.

Mike Vick should have went to jail. Mike Vick should have been allowed to play for any team willing to employ him.

So hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting. Hunting for sport or fun is okay, because its not dog hunting right? Dogs are obviously superior animals to others right? I've heard of this logic before.

spkb25 · 08-04-2013, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

See hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting.

Do you think you look like an idiot when you quote someone and then ignore what they wrote? Just wondering.

TheOak · 08-05-2013, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

So hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting. Hunting for sport or fun is okay, because its not dog hunting right? Dogs are obviously superior animals to others right? I've heard of this logic before.

There are nuances that you are missing.

Eating what you kill is one thing... Killing something for a trophy isn't illegal but it is not what most hunters do by choice, but there is no intent of pain and suffering on the hunted. Hunters do not fire to wound, and if an animal is wounded it is tracked and put down.

There is also the fact that hunters do not hunt domesticated animals. Putting two domesticated animals in a ring and having them fight to the death is cruelty.

I have hunted since I was a child, I have nothing hanging on my walls to show for any of my kills. Nothing stuffed as a trophy.. I had a rabbit pelt once but the meat was eaten.

Your opinion on hunters and hunting is akin to a little old ladies opinion on gang members.

WhoDat!656 · 08-04-2013, 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=TheOak;514763]Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Riley Cooper has been excused from team activities after it became clear that his presence would be a divisive one in the wake of a racially insensitive comment he made at a Kenny Chesney concert.

Miami Dolphins center Mike Pouncey is now coming to the defense of his former Florida Gators teammate.

"I spent three years in college with him. I feel bad for him. That's not Riley Cooper," Pouncey told NFL.com's Jeff Darlington on Friday. "I know him. I know his family. I wasn't offended by it because I know him. It's just an ugly situation, and I really feel bad for him. I'll reach out to him eventually -- but I want things to die down. I don't want to be one of those guys trying to give him advice."

Pouncey can sympathize with Cooper after the controversy ignited by the "Free Hernandez" hats that he and his twin brother, Maurkice, donned in support of another troubled former Florida teammate.

"I know what he's going through right now. ... One mistake can really hurt," Pouncey explained. "I know he's disgusted with himself -- and I just hope he gets through it. It feels like the lowest point of your career. You're thinking, 'I can't believe I'm that guy who made that mistake.' You don't want to be that guy."

The support from Pouncey, former teammate Cullen Jenkins and current Eagles teammates Michael Vick and Jason Avant suggests the larger problem with Cooper might be shattering the intoxication barrier as opposed to outright bigotry.

Good thing his former team mate feels bad for him, because Cooper's grandma doesn't!!

Not even Riley Cooper's grandma is sympathizing with him - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

08-04-2013, 09:12 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Just want to make sure I have it right... Murder and torture animals play for Eagles Use a word and might lose your job That does make sense Crusader and TheOak like this.

08-04-2013, 12:41 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by spkb25 Just want to make sure I have it right... Murder and torture animals play for Eagles Use a word and might lose your job That does make sense Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals. My opinion, Riley shouldn't be punished at all. And no, not because of this stupid reasoning that "they say it all the time" or "listen to the rappers". He shouldn't be punished because its a word, and black people such as myself need to stop trying to tell people what they can or can't say. People should be able to say what they want, and in turn be willing to accept whatever reaction they garner from a person. You want to say it, then take your chances. Because I've been saying it my whole life and have never had a problem, so there's no cause for me to stop. If a white person says it to me, I'm a little uneasy, but not offended. He's got to deal with the rest of the league now on the field. That's punishment enough.
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08-04-2013, 12:55 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by rezburna Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals. My opinion, Riley shouldn't be punished at all. And no, not because of this stupid reasoning that "they say it all the time" or "listen to the rappers". He shouldn't be punished because its a word, and black people such as myself need to stop trying to tell people what they can or can't say. People should be able to say what they want, and in turn be willing to accept whatever reaction they garner from a person. You want to say it, then take your chances. Because I've been saying it my whole life and have never had a problem, so there's no cause for me to stop. If a white person says it to me, I'm a little uneasy, but not offended. He's got to deal with the rest of the league now on the field. That's punishment enough. There is a fundamental difference between animals dying for food/sport quickly and humanely , and dying in an illegal sport for entertainment slowly and painfully for profit. Vick tortured those dogs.

08-04-2013, 01:02 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by TheOak There is a fundamental difference between animals dying for food/sport quickly and humanely , and dying in an illegal sport for entertainment slowly and painfully for profit. Vick tortured those dogs. We don't know if Vick tortured anything. He didn't go to jail for animal cruelty. He went to jail for hosting an illegal gambling ring. Killing for food is one thing, but killing for sport is no different. You're killing an animal for your own pleasure. Because you want to. Because you enjoy killing the animal. Mind you, I don't care if people hunt, kill, or torture animals in the 1st place. I'm not an animal sympathizer. Is it unnecessary? Yeah. Do I really care? Nah. If you want to hunt, hunt. Want to fight pitbulls, fight pitbulls. Roy Jones does the rooster fighting. Its all the same. Just my opinion.
	"The first need of a free people is to define their own terms.” - Stokely Carmichael

08-04-2013, 01:09 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by rezburna We don't know if Vick tortured anything. He didn't go to jail for animal cruelty. He went to jail for hosting an illegal gambling ring. Killing for food is one thing, but killing for sport is no different. You're killing an animal for your own pleasure. Because you want to. Because you enjoy killing the animal. Mind you, I don't care if people hunt, kill, or torture animals in the 1st place. I'm not an animal sympathizer. Is it unnecessary? Yeah. Do I really care? Nah. If you want to hunt, hunt. Want to fight pitbulls, fight pitbulls. Roy Jones does the rooster fighting. Its all the same. Just my opinion. Your opinion lack based other than you think so. There is a huge difference, it's called waste. If I hunt a cow for food it is the same as a slaughterhouse putting beef on the table... If I hunt a cow and leave the meat to rot it is illegal and wasteful. What he did was illegal .. Some would say that is difference enough and reason to go to jail... Breaking the law that is. When enough people do illegal things, the government starts to take away the rights of the lawful.

08-04-2013, 05:48 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by rezburna Vick went to jail, and he never should have. The next time somebody goes out there and shoots a deer, hog, duck, or rabbit they need to go to jail too. They're all animals. . I'm not going to stand here and pretend or allow you to pretend that there isn't context to the two events. Murdering an animal because it is threatening you, your family, your way of life, or killing for food does not fall into the same category as torturing and murdering animals for sport. That isn't an opinion it is a fact. Mike Vick should have went to jail. Mike Vick should have been allowed to play for any team willing to employ him.

08-04-2013, 06:06 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by spkb25 I'm not going to stand here and pretend or allow you to pretend that there isn't context to the two events. Murdering an animal because it is threatening you, your family, your way of life, or killing for food does not fall into the same category as torturing and murdering animals for sport. That isn't an opinion it is a fact. Mike Vick should have went to jail. Mike Vick should have been allowed to play for any team willing to employ him. So hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting. Hunting for sport or fun is okay, because its not dog hunting right? Dogs are obviously superior animals to others right? I've heard of this logic before.

08-04-2013, 06:11 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by rezburna See hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting. Do you think you look like an idiot when you quote someone and then ignore what they wrote? Just wondering.

08-05-2013, 07:31 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper Originally Posted by rezburna So hunting season is for the animals that are threatening us huh? Interesting. Hunting for sport or fun is okay, because its not dog hunting right? Dogs are obviously superior animals to others right? I've heard of this logic before. There are nuances that you are missing. Eating what you kill is one thing... Killing something for a trophy isn't illegal but it is not what most hunters do by choice, but there is no intent of pain and suffering on the hunted. Hunters do not fire to wound, and if an animal is wounded it is tracked and put down. There is also the fact that hunters do not hunt domesticated animals. Putting two domesticated animals in a ring and having them fight to the death is cruelty. I have hunted since I was a child, I have nothing hanging on my walls to show for any of my kills. Nothing stuffed as a trophy.. I had a rabbit pelt once but the meat was eaten. Your opinion on hunters and hunting is akin to a little old ladies opinion on gang members.
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08-04-2013, 11:15 AM	#10
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,088	Re: Mike Pouncey 'really feels bad' for Eagles' Riley Cooper [QUOTE=TheOak;514763]Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Riley Cooper has been excused from team activities after it became clear that his presence would be a divisive one in the wake of a racially insensitive comment he made at a Kenny Chesney concert. Miami Dolphins center Mike Pouncey is now coming to the defense of his former Florida Gators teammate. "I spent three years in college with him. I feel bad for him. That's not Riley Cooper," Pouncey told NFL.com's Jeff Darlington on Friday. "I know him. I know his family. I wasn't offended by it because I know him. It's just an ugly situation, and I really feel bad for him. I'll reach out to him eventually -- but I want things to die down. I don't want to be one of those guys trying to give him advice." Pouncey can sympathize with Cooper after the controversy ignited by the "Free Hernandez" hats that he and his twin brother, Maurkice, donned in support of another troubled former Florida teammate. "I know what he's going through right now. ... One mistake can really hurt," Pouncey explained. "I know he's disgusted with himself -- and I just hope he gets through it. It feels like the lowest point of your career. You're thinking, 'I can't believe I'm that guy who made that mistake.' You don't want to be that guy." The support from Pouncey, former teammate Cullen Jenkins and current Eagles teammates Michael Vick and Jason Avant suggests the larger problem with Cooper might be shattering the intoxication barrier as opposed to outright bigotry. Good thing his former team mate feels bad for him, because Cooper's grandma doesn't!! Not even Riley Cooper's grandma is sympathizing with him - NFL News \| FOX Sports on MSN
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