Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 522300)

I roll with ray the strong way ... Lotta perfect folks on this forum huh ?

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 522343)

Forgiven? Aspire to be? You may aspire to be Ray Lewis, don't lump me in your bag of sh1t.

One is forgiven after they make amends. In his case, do time. Murder doesn't get "forgiven" like he forgot to take out the trash.

Not only does Ray not get a pass or forgiven for murder but he hangs on a second hook for flipping to stay out of jail and the man has fk-all for integrity.

There is some fundamental disconnection when you are willing to overlook murder to get a linebacker.

I also don't get the want for everyone else's toys around here. This isn't Piccadilly..... Ill take Sean Payton/Drew Brees/ Johnathan Vilma over Harbaugh/Lewis/Flacco any day, everyday, and twice in Sunday.

Furthermore Ray Lewis didn't play the way he did because he has heart, he was playing for penance and forgiveness because of what he did, Andy Tanner has more heart that Ray Lewis on any day.... Ray was playing off a debt... There is a huge difference.


For those who have forgotten.
CNNSI.com - 2000 Bloody Monday - Does NFL star Ray Lewis' arrest for murder taint the game? - Friday March 03, 2000 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 522479)

Considering thou shall not kill is lumped right in the 10 commandments right next to thou shall not lie and a couple other things, I don't really think anybody is at liberty to judge Ray Lewis. Verdict was not guilty. And even if he did do it, I suppose Ray Lewis isn't allowed to defend his self. He was just walking around the club like, "I'm gonna kill me somebody tonight," in a lot of people's eyes. Only because its Ray Lewis though. Maybe Drew would have better luck with public opinion.


He praises the Lord and spreads the Bible's message everytime you see him. I love Ray Lewis. Genuine or not, he does it. I'd trade every player we've ever had in Saints history outside of Drew Brees for Ray Lewis. He's 10 times better then anybody we've ever had play for our franchise.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 522514)

1. I follow my own commandments. If you are going to liken taking someone's life to taking his lawnmower your values are severely skewed.

2. Once again you speak misinformed. Ray Lewis was never found not-guilty, Ray Lewis negotiated down to obstruction of justice in exchange for testimony against Oakley and Sweeting. If Ray Lewis were defending him self then that's all he would need to prove and walk away acquitted.

Oakley and Sweeting we're acquitted, the person that did it never stood trial.

~ Ray Fkn Lewis.

3. I am not willing to ignore the death he spread then because he spreads the bible today.

Father Gilbert Gauthier spread the word of The Lord in Vermillion Parish..... He also raped little boys I knew while he was there. Put him on your team also.

Stand for something or fall for anything.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 522516)

I can only judge a man from what I'm shown. Ray Lewis hasn't shown me anything that I should dislike. And if you're a real Christian and are judging him from those viewpoints then there is no difference between stealing and murder. There is no scale of severity. The Bible states you ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven. He doesn't have to ask Oak or Rez Burna for anything. So if you have your own rules I think you might have more problems at the gate then Ray Lewis will.

For all you know Drew Brees rapes a little boy before every game for good luck. You don't know any of these people personally. Maybe all the good things he does is to cover up something he's done or doing that he feels guilty about. Don't pick and choose who you want to be cynical about.

The difference between the preacher and Ray Lewis? You know what the preacher did. You don't know if Ray did anything. You're assuming.