Why Attend Games

ClintSaints · 09-22-2013, 09:35 AM

I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right.

The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him.

TheOak · 09-22-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right.

The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him.

People get too caught up in "right and wrong"....
The issue is not whether the police are right or wrong.... That is what a court room is for.

Even if that cop is wrong, you will bleed before it is over. If you want to bleed and get arrested then by all means get right in his face.

I prefer to go quietly and let my lawyer handle it... The cost ends up being the same but I will not need any healing time.

Halo · 09-22-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

People get too caught up in "right and wrong"....
The issue is not whether the police are right or wrong.... That is what a court room is for.

Even if that cop is wrong, you will bleed before it is over. If you want to bleed and get arrested then by all means get right in his face.

Except for when at a Mardi Grad parade last year on the Northshore in Mandeville, the Mandeville PD along with Parish PD had prisoner inmates cleaning up a highway 1/2 mile down, on an (assumed) closed highway. No signs, no nothing, you just had to guess the road was closed, the only road leaving my fathers dental practice.

I drove up to a police car with 3 guys there to ask "can we proceed down this road now?"

One plain clothes ass-hole cop walks backwards into my car, I slammed by breaks going all of 2 mph, and he yells "WHAT ARE YOU INSANE! YOU TRIED TO RUN OVER ME" when I said CALMLY "I have a car full of 6 people and you deliberately walked backward into my car. I was driving 2 miles per hour toward your car to ask a question. Can we pass here?"

When mister undercover "bad cop" decided to go ballistic, slam his hands on the hood of my car, and reached for his holster, another police office standing there who saw it all happen stopped him by putting his hand between him and my car and said "NO" and he calmly answered my question.

Luckily, that day, the entire PD had NO RESPECT for the "bad cop" detective. On any other day, I could have been thrown in jail, unjustly, by someone abusing his authority.

And there is the problem with police. It's not the good police at all.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Except for when at a Mardi Grad parade last year on the Northshore in Mandeville, the Mandeville PD along with Parish PD had prisoner inmates cleaning up a highway 1/2 mile down, on an (assumed) closed highway. No signs, no nothing, you just had to guess the road was closed, the only road leaving my fathers dental practice.

I drove up to a police car with 3 guys there to ask "can we proceed down this road now?"

One plain clothes ass-hole cop walks backwards into my car, I slammed by breaks going all of 2 mph, and he yells "WHAT ARE YOU INSANE! YOU TRIED TO RUN OVER ME" when I said CALMLY "I have a car full of 6 people and you deliberately walked backward into my car. I was driving 2 miles per hour toward your car to ask a question. Can we pass here?"

When mister undercover "bad cop" decided to go ballistic, slam his hands on the hood of my car, and reached for his holster, another police office standing there who saw it all happen stopped him by putting his hand between him and my car and said "NO" and he calmly answered my question.

Luckily, that day, the entire PD had NO RESPECT for the "bad cop" detective. On any other day, I could have been thrown in jail, unjustly, by someone abusing his authority.

And there is the problem with police. It's not the good police at all.

Precisely how it should have been handled. You didn't get out of the car after being told not to or try to stay in your car when being told to get out. You didn't start yelling about your rights, calling him a pig, try to chest bump him. In so many words you told him, "I am only looking for an answer to my question, are you sure you want to do this here"? A cooler head prevailed, had you got out screaming and yelling it would have turned out differently.

ScottF · 09-22-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right.

The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him.

I'm not sure we are assuming that... I think the point is this- if a cop tells you to do something, especially in a crowd, just do it.

On Poydras I just saw a 55 year old guy in a Saints shirt jaywalk in front of cop while the cop was holding up his hand to stop him. The guy then says 'oh, don't be an ******* about it'. Smart.
While I was crossing, (legally, I might add) that guy was emptying his pockets and looked like he might be there awhile. Moral: shut up and /or do the right thing. Or both

09-22-2013, 09:35 AM	#1
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Re: Why Attend Games I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right. The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him.

09-22-2013, 10:06 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Why Attend Games Originally Posted by ClintSaints I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right. The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him. People get too caught up in "right and wrong".... The issue is not whether the police are right or wrong.... That is what a court room is for. Even if that cop is wrong, you will bleed before it is over. If you want to bleed and get arrested then by all means get right in his face. I prefer to go quietly and let my lawyer handle it... The cost ends up being the same but I will not need any healing time. MaggieMayTB likes this.

09-22-2013, 05:01 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,900 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Why Attend Games Originally Posted by TheOak People get too caught up in "right and wrong".... The issue is not whether the police are right or wrong.... That is what a court room is for. Even if that cop is wrong, you will bleed before it is over. If you want to bleed and get arrested then by all means get right in his face. Except for when at a Mardi Grad parade last year on the Northshore in Mandeville, the Mandeville PD along with Parish PD had prisoner inmates cleaning up a highway 1/2 mile down, on an (assumed) closed highway. No signs, no nothing, you just had to guess the road was closed, the only road leaving my fathers dental practice. I drove up to a police car with 3 guys there to ask "can we proceed down this road now?" One plain clothes ass-hole cop walks backwards into my car, I slammed by breaks going all of 2 mph, and he yells "WHAT ARE YOU INSANE! YOU TRIED TO RUN OVER ME" when I said CALMLY "I have a car full of 6 people and you deliberately walked backward into my car. I was driving 2 miles per hour toward your car to ask a question. Can we pass here?" When mister undercover "bad cop" decided to go ballistic, slam his hands on the hood of my car, and reached for his holster, another police office standing there who saw it all happen stopped him by putting his hand between him and my car and said "NO" and he calmly answered my question. Luckily, that day, the entire PD had NO RESPECT for the "bad cop" detective. On any other day, I could have been thrown in jail, unjustly, by someone abusing his authority. And there is the problem with police. It's not the good police at all.
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09-23-2013, 06:10 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Why Attend Games Originally Posted by Halo Except for when at a Mardi Grad parade last year on the Northshore in Mandeville, the Mandeville PD along with Parish PD had prisoner inmates cleaning up a highway 1/2 mile down, on an (assumed) closed highway. No signs, no nothing, you just had to guess the road was closed, the only road leaving my fathers dental practice. I drove up to a police car with 3 guys there to ask "can we proceed down this road now?" One plain clothes ass-hole cop walks backwards into my car, I slammed by breaks going all of 2 mph, and he yells "WHAT ARE YOU INSANE! YOU TRIED TO RUN OVER ME" when I said CALMLY "I have a car full of 6 people and you deliberately walked backward into my car. I was driving 2 miles per hour toward your car to ask a question. Can we pass here?" When mister undercover "bad cop" decided to go ballistic, slam his hands on the hood of my car, and reached for his holster, another police office standing there who saw it all happen stopped him by putting his hand between him and my car and said "NO" and he calmly answered my question. Luckily, that day, the entire PD had NO RESPECT for the "bad cop" detective. On any other day, I could have been thrown in jail, unjustly, by someone abusing his authority. And there is the problem with police. It's not the good police at all. Precisely how it should have been handled. You didn't get out of the car after being told not to or try to stay in your car when being told to get out. You didn't start yelling about your rights, calling him a pig, try to chest bump him. In so many words you told him, "I am only looking for an answer to my question, are you sure you want to do this here"? A cooler head prevailed, had you got out screaming and yelling it would have turned out differently.

09-22-2013, 10:10 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Why Attend Games Originally Posted by ClintSaints I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right. The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him. I'm not sure we are assuming that... I think the point is this- if a cop tells you to do something, especially in a crowd, just do it. On Poydras I just saw a 55 year old guy in a Saints shirt jaywalk in front of cop while the cop was holding up his hand to stop him. The guy then says 'oh, don't be an ******* about it'. Smart. While I was crossing, (legally, I might add) that guy was emptying his pockets and looked like he might be there awhile. Moral: shut up and /or do the right thing. Or both

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