What does everyone think of NFL international games?

SloMotion · 10-28-2013, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

That's a sick joke right? Your soccer is absolutely horrible haha

It's interesting isn't it. The usual UK fans on here that I am aware of, me, dizzle, lee, UKWHODAT are ALL in agreement that we do NOT want a franchise in England. This is echoed by every single one of my friends who is a fan of the game and who has been for any length of time.

Let's be honest. We do try to get the tickets when the games are played at Wembley. It is a spectacle to see the players you watch on telly or have in your fantasy team playing in front of you, but it is not something I would want on a regular basis.

I do think it is a good thing to grow the popularity of the sport and you have to appreciate the devil you have. The NFL is an entertainment juggernaut. Whilst the main 'sell' is sport, this is not a sport in the sense of truly how a sport is run. You would never see our Soccer run like the NFL because it makes its money in a different way. The FA (Football Association) couldn't suddenly start telling the different teams what to do. Also our teams are teams. They are bound to the city. They are not franchises.

So putting the odd game, or two or even three over in London is not a bad thing. If a team is happy to sacrifice a home game then it is a fair deal. This is where it should end though.

Hey! We qualified for the World Cup and I think our chances are pretty good,

... I agree though, an NFL franchise in Europe probably wouldn't work and NFL Europe was already tried. I think they have a good formula now playing 3-4-5 games a season over there. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it, but of course, Goodell can never leave well enough alone,

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Your point about the teams being bound to the cities, that's what I like about futbol and the European leagues (hockey) in general, there's a certain amount of local flavor ... it used to be that way, somewhat, in US professional sports, but now only in the minor leagues.

DISPLACEDFAN · 10-28-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Dude, soccer is already all over North America (MLS, NASL, USL PRO, PDL, NPSL are just some of the leagues) and the networks ... just sayin', .

I'm talking about the Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal, AC Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona teams like that.

I'm not talking about the American form of soccer its entirely different over there than what we call it.

Id be ok if they wanted to put pre season games over there. Hell put all pre season games for every team over there. We don't want to see them let alone pay full price to attend them. I might be able to support that but to put in season games over there is a detriment to competitive fairness of all teams trying to make the playoffs

SloMotion · 10-28-2013, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

I'm talking about the Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal, AC Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona teams like that.

I'm not talking about the American form of soccer its entirely different over there than what we call it.

Id be ok if they wanted to put pre season games over there. Hell put all pre season games for every team over there. We don't want to see them let alone pay full price to attend them. I might be able to support that but to put in season games over there is a detriment to competitive fairness of all teams trying to make the playoffs

Premier League is on ESPN/ESPN2 all the time ... seriously.

One of the three pillars of success in business is "expand into new markets" ... it's why the Big Three is in China and the NFL is going to Europe.

From what I understand, the regular season contests over there are voluntary, the franchises sign up for them and they're not forced to play there, so it's Ok with me. It all probably translates into x-amount of dollars in uniform/souvenir sales for those teams anyway ... don't matter what we think,

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ScottF · 10-27-2013, 10:31 AM

Franchise is ridiculous; Super Bowl even worse.

My grand plan has always been go to a 17 game schedule and make the 'odd' game at a neutral site that will sell well: Toronto, 3-4 in London, San Antonio, Okla City, LA, Hawaii, Mexico City (except altitude issues).

Tobias-Reiper · 10-27-2013, 01:47 PM

Crusader · 10-27-2013, 03:48 PM

I think its good for spreading the sport. There are droves of fans traveling from all over Europe to London for the games. I don't think there should be more than 1-2 regular season games a year thou and they don't have to bee in London all the time either. Why not Berlin, Stockholm, Paris or Copenhagen?

I could see some preseason games over here.

QBREES9 · 10-27-2013, 11:14 PM

I thinks it's great for football. But not for the players.

Vrillon82 · 10-28-2013, 12:14 PM

I think its garbage and pure stupid for the fact if you are the home team, you getting absolutely no advantage since its essentially a neutral field.

Its worse when the supposed visiting team (49ers) is facing the supposed home team (Jaguars) in London. Jaguars got nothing out of that deal except the NFL idiots wanting to market a team in London. I think games in London is more of an attempt to alter seedings come playoff time, what happens if the Saints/49ers game later this year was in London when the Saints was the home team? No dome, hosting team, and you on a neutral field.

Retarded I say.

Mardigras9 · 10-28-2013, 12:27 PM

Agree with QBREES, good for the game, not the teams.

nwsaintfan · 10-28-2013, 12:40 PM

I think teams should have to volunteer to play games overseas.

10-28-2013, 07:17 AM	#1
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? Originally Posted by thebdj That's a sick joke right? Your soccer is absolutely horrible haha It's interesting isn't it. The usual UK fans on here that I am aware of, me, dizzle, lee, UKWHODAT are ALL in agreement that we do NOT want a franchise in England. This is echoed by every single one of my friends who is a fan of the game and who has been for any length of time. Let's be honest. We do try to get the tickets when the games are played at Wembley. It is a spectacle to see the players you watch on telly or have in your fantasy team playing in front of you, but it is not something I would want on a regular basis. I do think it is a good thing to grow the popularity of the sport and you have to appreciate the devil you have. The NFL is an entertainment juggernaut. Whilst the main 'sell' is sport, this is not a sport in the sense of truly how a sport is run. You would never see our Soccer run like the NFL because it makes its money in a different way. The FA (Football Association) couldn't suddenly start telling the different teams what to do. Also our teams are teams. They are bound to the city. They are not franchises. So putting the odd game, or two or even three over in London is not a bad thing. If a team is happy to sacrifice a home game then it is a fair deal. This is where it should end though. Hey! We qualified for the World Cup and I think our chances are pretty good, ... I agree though, an NFL franchise in Europe probably wouldn't work and NFL Europe was already tried. I think they have a good formula now playing 3-4-5 games a season over there. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it, but of course, Goodell can never leave well enough alone, . Your point about the teams being bound to the cities, that's what I like about futbol and the European leagues (hockey) in general, there's a certain amount of local flavor ... it used to be that way, somewhat, in US professional sports, but now only in the minor leagues.

10-28-2013, 12:29 PM	#2
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? Originally Posted by SloMotion Dude, soccer is already all over North America (MLS, NASL, USL PRO, PDL, NPSL are just some of the leagues) and the networks ... just sayin', . I'm talking about the Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal, AC Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona teams like that. I'm not talking about the American form of soccer its entirely different over there than what we call it. Id be ok if they wanted to put pre season games over there. Hell put all pre season games for every team over there. We don't want to see them let alone pay full price to attend them. I might be able to support that but to put in season games over there is a detriment to competitive fairness of all teams trying to make the playoffs

10-28-2013, 04:01 PM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN I'm talking about the Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal, AC Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona teams like that. I'm not talking about the American form of soccer its entirely different over there than what we call it. Id be ok if they wanted to put pre season games over there. Hell put all pre season games for every team over there. We don't want to see them let alone pay full price to attend them. I might be able to support that but to put in season games over there is a detriment to competitive fairness of all teams trying to make the playoffs Premier League is on ESPN/ESPN2 all the time ... seriously. One of the three pillars of success in business is "expand into new markets" ... it's why the Big Three is in China and the NFL is going to Europe. From what I understand, the regular season contests over there are voluntary, the franchises sign up for them and they're not forced to play there, so it's Ok with me. It all probably translates into x-amount of dollars in uniform/souvenir sales for those teams anyway ... don't matter what we think, .

10-27-2013, 10:31 AM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? Franchise is ridiculous; Super Bowl even worse. My grand plan has always been go to a 17 game schedule and make the 'odd' game at a neutral site that will sell well: Toronto, 3-4 in London, San Antonio, Okla City, LA, Hawaii, Mexico City (except altitude issues).

10-27-2013, 01:47 PM	#5
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10-27-2013, 03:48 PM	#6
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? I think its good for spreading the sport. There are droves of fans traveling from all over Europe to London for the games. I don't think there should be more than 1-2 regular season games a year thou and they don't have to bee in London all the time either. Why not Berlin, Stockholm, Paris or Copenhagen? I could see some preseason games over here.

10-27-2013, 11:14 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? I thinks it's great for football. But not for the players.

10-28-2013, 12:14 PM	#8
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? I think its garbage and pure stupid for the fact if you are the home team, you getting absolutely no advantage since its essentially a neutral field. Its worse when the supposed visiting team (49ers) is facing the supposed home team (Jaguars) in London. Jaguars got nothing out of that deal except the NFL idiots wanting to market a team in London. I think games in London is more of an attempt to alter seedings come playoff time, what happens if the Saints/49ers game later this year was in London when the Saints was the home team? No dome, hosting team, and you on a neutral field. Retarded I say. B005TED likes this.
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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: What does everyone think of NFL international games? Agree with QBREES, good for the game, not the teams.

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