RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud?

DISPLACEDFAN · 11-25-2013, 11:41 PM

I watched the game tonight and I don't have a answer to that question yet. I'm leaning to side of fraud to be honest. He definitely isn't the same I think he is playing scared. His legs were a big part of his game and now without them he looks like a below average QB all he does is throw the quick outs or he throws the ball deep down the field on a prayer. Washington ought to bench RG3 and see what Cousins can do. Washington isn't going anywhere anyway. IMHO a little bit of humble pie could be just what he needs. I know Washington wants to avoid a QB controversy but at this point what they got to lose.

dizzle88 · 11-26-2013, 04:28 AM

They played into his strengths last season, quick screens, read options, getting rid of the ball quickly or just taking off

Now hes having to read the field properly, i think hes struggling

SloMotion · 11-26-2013, 05:34 AM

I usually won't throw a rookie sensation under the bus until after his third season, so yeah, I'm going with 'sophomore slump', for now. Of the four read-option/running QBs I lump together for comparison (RGIII, Kaepernick, Wilson, Newton), only Newton & Wilson seem to have avoided a serious tailing off in their second (Cam & Kaep's third) seasons. Why is that? Because they seem to have become comfortable and developed some sort of presence in the pocket. RGIII & Kaep haven't, so they're gonna' struggle until they do.

Vick is another one I think about when this topic comes up. Always exciting to watch, but if you look at his career, his stats are all over the place season-to-season.

Comes with the territory with these type of guys, IMO.

Danno · 11-26-2013, 08:59 AM

I've only seen a couple games, but what I saw was RG3 being completely engulfed by defenders on nearly every drop back. I doubt any QB could succeed with an O-line that awful.

I also believe the game passed Shanahan up several years ago.

SmashMouth · 11-26-2013, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've only seen a couple games, but what I saw was RG3 being completely engulfed by defenders on nearly every drop back. I doubt any QB could succeed with an O-line that awful.

I also believe the game passed Shanahan up several years ago.

Well, they also have Hazbeen on that coaching staff.

Utah_Saint · 11-26-2013, 09:01 AM

I'm leaning toward sophomore slump. He really doesn't have much of a team around him.

K Major · 11-26-2013, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I'm leaning toward sophomore slump. He really doesn't have much of a team around him.

I'm still leaning towards the fact that he came back too soon off a torn ACL. He just appears to be a half step slower right now. Just watching the game last night, I thought Aldon and Justin Smith were going to destroy the kid every time he dropped back to pass.

neugey · 11-26-2013, 09:12 AM

I watched the game last night and I think a big factor is the playcalling and the lack of adjustments by Redskins offensive coordinator. The Niners 3-4 edge rushers were dominating last night and yet the Redskins kept calling the pistol and gun read-option stuff, making RG3 a sitting duck. They should put RG3 under center a lot more often and call runs to Morris to slow down the outside rush and get away from the predictability they have now with the pistol read-option stuff.

Danno · 11-26-2013, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

I watched the game last night and I think a big factor is the playcalling and the lack of adjustments by Redskins offensive coordinator. The Niners 3-4 edge rushers were dominating last night and yet the Redskins kept calling the pistol and gun read-option stuff, making RG3 a sitting duck. They should put RG3 under center a lot more often and call runs to Morris to slow down the outside rush and get away from the predictability they have now with the pistol read-option stuff.

I know, it seemed like all of the Skins run plays took way too long to develop. That's easy pickin's for that 49er front 7 I thought they needed more quick hitters. At times it looked like their RB was lined up 10 yards behind center.

Mardigras9 · 11-26-2013, 12:10 PM

Slump.
But he will have to learn to live more in the pocket or his playing time will be short lived.

11-25-2013, 11:41 PM	#1
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? I watched the game tonight and I don't have a answer to that question yet. I'm leaning to side of fraud to be honest. He definitely isn't the same I think he is playing scared. His legs were a big part of his game and now without them he looks like a below average QB all he does is throw the quick outs or he throws the ball deep down the field on a prayer. Washington ought to bench RG3 and see what Cousins can do. Washington isn't going anywhere anyway. IMHO a little bit of humble pie could be just what he needs. I know Washington wants to avoid a QB controversy but at this point what they got to lose.

11-26-2013, 04:28 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? They played into his strengths last season, quick screens, read options, getting rid of the ball quickly or just taking off Now hes having to read the field properly, i think hes struggling

11-26-2013, 05:34 AM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? I usually won't throw a rookie sensation under the bus until after his third season, so yeah, I'm going with 'sophomore slump', for now. Of the four read-option/running QBs I lump together for comparison (RGIII, Kaepernick, Wilson, Newton), only Newton & Wilson seem to have avoided a serious tailing off in their second (Cam & Kaep's third) seasons. Why is that? Because they seem to have become comfortable and developed some sort of presence in the pocket. RGIII & Kaep haven't, so they're gonna' struggle until they do. Vick is another one I think about when this topic comes up. Always exciting to watch, but if you look at his career, his stats are all over the place season-to-season. Comes with the territory with these type of guys, IMO.

11-26-2013, 08:59 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? I've only seen a couple games, but what I saw was RG3 being completely engulfed by defenders on nearly every drop back. I doubt any QB could succeed with an O-line that awful. I also believe the game passed Shanahan up several years ago.

11-26-2013, 03:50 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? Originally Posted by Danno I've only seen a couple games, but what I saw was RG3 being completely engulfed by defenders on nearly every drop back. I doubt any QB could succeed with an O-line that awful. I also believe the game passed Shanahan up several years ago. Well, they also have Hazbeen on that coaching staff.

11-26-2013, 09:01 AM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? I'm leaning toward sophomore slump. He really doesn't have much of a team around him.

11-26-2013, 04:25 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I'm leaning toward sophomore slump. He really doesn't have much of a team around him. I'm still leaning towards the fact that he came back too soon off a torn ACL. He just appears to be a half step slower right now. Just watching the game last night, I thought Aldon and Justin Smith were going to destroy the kid every time he dropped back to pass. SloMotion likes this.

11-26-2013, 09:12 AM	#8
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? I watched the game last night and I think a big factor is the playcalling and the lack of adjustments by Redskins offensive coordinator. The Niners 3-4 edge rushers were dominating last night and yet the Redskins kept calling the pistol and gun read-option stuff, making RG3 a sitting duck. They should put RG3 under center a lot more often and call runs to Morris to slow down the outside rush and get away from the predictability they have now with the pistol read-option stuff.

11-26-2013, 10:45 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? Originally Posted by neugey I watched the game last night and I think a big factor is the playcalling and the lack of adjustments by Redskins offensive coordinator. The Niners 3-4 edge rushers were dominating last night and yet the Redskins kept calling the pistol and gun read-option stuff, making RG3 a sitting duck. They should put RG3 under center a lot more often and call runs to Morris to slow down the outside rush and get away from the predictability they have now with the pistol read-option stuff. I know, it seemed like all of the Skins run plays took way too long to develop. That's easy pickin's for that 49er front 7 I thought they needed more quick hitters. At times it looked like their RB was lined up 10 yards behind center.

11-26-2013, 12:10 PM	#10
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: RG3 Soph. Slump or is he a Fraud? Slump. But he will have to learn to live more in the pocket or his playing time will be short lived.

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