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WhoDat!656 12-09-2013 07:25 AM

Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls
 
Some would say Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman is a bad winner. On Sunday, he came off as a bad loser.

After the Seahawks absorbed a 19-17 loss to the 49ers, Sherman blamed the loss on the officiating.

“We didn’t project it to be this way,” Sherman said, via quotes distributed by the 49ers. “We expected to blow them out but they got the benefit of a few calls tonight throughout the game and that helps you especially on third down, we will see them again and it will be a different result.”

He reiterated that he expected a blowout for the Seahawks, and that the home team “got a few questionable calls on third down.”

Sherman also disputed the notion that the return of receiver Michael Crabtree, who missed the Week Two game between the teams due to a torn Achilles tendon, made a difference for the 49ers.

“It didn’t make a difference,” Sherman said. “It didn’t make a difference at all. . . . The penalties, that is what made the difference today.”

Regardless, the 49ers won. If there’s a rubber match in the postseason, the Seahawks most likely will host the game. And that’s what will make the difference in January.

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Mardigras9 12-09-2013 09:50 AM

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We said it after they beat the hell out of us. The whole D backfield seem to be a bunch of cocky jerks. You have to respect there play, but it's hard when they want to rub it in your face.

WhoDat!656 12-09-2013 10:03 AM

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We said it after they beat the hell out of us. The whole D backfield seem to be a bunch of cocky jerks. You have to respect there play, but it's hard when they want to rub it in your face.

I don't remember ANY Saints player/coach blame that loss on the officiating, or saying they expected a blow-out win.

|Mitch| 12-09-2013 10:08 AM

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Sounds like he may need some cheese with that whine! :rolleyes:

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Sherman might point to the penalties as the margin, but the Seahawks' defense had a chance to close out the road win. However, it allowed a 51-yard run by Frank Gore on third-and-1, leading to the game-winning field goal.

There was no penalty on that play.
Richard Sherman blames officials for Seahawks' loss - NFL.com

Choupique 12-10-2013 02:22 PM

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any time i hear present day yuppies whining like a little girl about "bad calls" i think back to the early days of the saints.

stfu and quit crying like a child. seriously.

play the victim, alice.

AlaskaSaints 12-10-2013 02:57 PM

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Over on their board, which I have been abruptly banned from, they are now speculating that the Chickens threw the game as not to expose their entire playbook.

LOL

And they had yet to clinch the division? LOL

GO GIANTS. GO ELI. Shred the SeaChickens. Make them accept a Wild Card game.

Alaska

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 03:18 PM

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I never heard Sherman use the term "bad calls". He said the refs calls "affected the game". The problem that I see is inconsistency. Most weeks they allow grabbing of the jersey but this week they didn't. The Hawks had every break in the world go against them (blocked punt, 53 yard field goal, weird offensive penalties) and yet lost by two points and had the lead until the last drive. Just let the teams decide the game is all I am saying. As far as the future goes, the Niners have scored one touchdown on us all year...

SmashMouth 12-10-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558694)
I never heard Sherman use the term "bad calls". He said the refs calls "affected the game". The problem that I see is inconsistency. Most weeks they allow grabbing of the jersey but this week they didn't. The Hawks had every break in the world go against them (blocked punt, 53 yard field goal, weird offensive penalties) and yet lost by two points and had the lead until the last drive. Just let the teams decide the game is all I am saying. As far as the future goes, the Niners have scored one touchdown on us all year...

Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it. :wink:

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 558689)
Over on their board, which I have been abruptly banned from, they are now speculating that the Chickens threw the game as not to expose their entire playbook.

LOL

And they had yet to clinch the division? LOL

GO GIANTS. GO ELI. Shred the SeaChickens. Make them accept a Wild Card game.

Alaska

You exaggerate. You got banned because people didn't believe your story. I am not going to say if it happened or not but going to a visiting fans forum and making them feel bad about something they have no control over is pointless. Your significant other didn't go to the hospital correct? Your story seems a little bit unbelievable but moving on.
No, the Seahawks are not going to pull out their playbook and they played very conservatively. Why would you pull out the stops with a foe you will probably see again? That would be stupid. The game was meaningless and yet the Niners had to pull out all the stops to win..
There is no way in hell they are losing to the Giants which means they have to win one game at home with a Quarterback who has never lost at The Clink.

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 558699)
Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it. :wink:

Guilty as charged... :P I think you have to either call it or not...

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 558699)
Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest.

Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers :rolleyes:

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558705)
Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers :rolleyes:

This stuff isn't going to be called in the playoffs. I heard an analyst compare the Seahawks to the New York Knicks. They beat you up and force the refs to call the fouls. If the refs don't call it then you would be stupid not to do it. Teams cheat all the time.. Justin Smith holds lineman on every play and yet I have never heard a seahawks fan complain about it??

You can brush off the "big physical corner" all you want but we have legally sent many a receiver to the sidelines. They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it.

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558711)
They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it.

But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it :rolleyes:

And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it...

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558716)
But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it :rolleyes:

And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it...

I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration. The Seahawks lost and deserve it. The 49ers won the game on Gore's run and they kicked the winning field goal but there is a world of difference between blaming the game on bad calls and saying that choosing to enforce calls that are not a point of emphasis for most referees.

Sherman is defiant. He gets into petty stuff and many Hawk fans get annoyed with him sometimes but most of his stuff is off the field. As long as he is not getting into trouble with the law and plays within the confines of the team, I don't give a sh*t what he does.

Your third point, perhaps I can be full of it from time to time... :D

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558733)
I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration.

Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does?

Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit?

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558737)
Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does?

Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit?

That is a warped way of putting it but yes you are correct. Not blaming officials for bad calls but blaming officials for not letting them get away with it LOL.

KJ Wright will depend on how long he it out. Where he is valuable is in the Seahawks Zone defense. It would hurt them a lot more against the Saints then against the 49ers. The Saints like to plant Jimmy Graham over the middle and KJ Wright has freakishly long arms and for whatever he lacks for in height he makes up for it in length. Bobby Wagner in not nearly as effective with tight ends. Speed tight ends like Davis don't hurt the Hawks because of Chancellor and Wagner on the back end but Graham would cause significant problems over the middle if Wright is not back for that game. They would probably put chancellor on him man to man and that would put a lot of pressure on Earl Thomas to defend the back end. Preliminary reports were 4-6 weeks but they will have a more accurate timetable after surgery. They don't need him until the playoffs thank god..

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 05:01 PM

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I wouldn't sleep on the Giants, Cardinals, or Rams; especially with the latter two division games...

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 558743)
I wouldn't sleep on the Giants, Cardinals, or Rams; especially with the latter two division games...

Giants five wins

Minnesota
Josh Freeman

Philadelphia
Matt Barkley

Oakland Raiders
T Pryor

Green Bay Packers
Scott Tolzein

Washington
A total mess and them on your schedule is the same as a bye.

When your most impressive win is a 4 point squeaker to the Raiders, I can't take them seriously.

The Rams: Do you really think Kellen Clemons is walking into our house and leaving with the victory???

Cardinals are a legitimate opponent but overall: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

We need to win 2 of 3 to clinch everything. If we lose two of our last three then we deserve to go on the road.

Seahawks.net is going through a one loss in eight game hangover. OH NO A TWO POINT LOSS DOOOOOOMED!!! Ugh, I would rather get razzed by Saints fans.

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558747)
We need to win 2 of 3 to clinch everything. If we lose two of our last three then we deserve to go on the road.

Stranger things have happened in the NFL...

SmashMouth 12-10-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558747)
Giants five wins

Minnesota
Josh Freeman

Philadelphia
Matt Barkley

Oakland Raiders
T Pryor

Green Bay Packers
Scott Tolzein

Washington
A total mess and them on your schedule is the same as a bye.

When your most impressive win is a 4 point squeaker to the Raiders, I can't take them seriously.

The Rams: Do you really think Kellen Clemons is walking into our house and leaving with the victory???

Cardinals is a legitimate opponent but overall: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

We need to win 2 of 3 to clinch everything. If we lose two of our last three then we deserve to go on the road.

Seahawks.net is going through a one loss in eight win hangover. OH NO A TWO POINT LOSS DOOOOOOMED!!! Ugh, I would rather get razzed by Saints fans.

You could lose the last three like we did once... :wink:

Choupique 12-10-2013 05:29 PM

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the goats aren't that good.

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 05:29 PM

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Right now we are waiting from the league on Brandon Bowner. Maybe next time Thurmond and Browner won't share each other's weed.

SmashMouth 12-10-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558758)
Right now we are waiting from the league on Brandon Bowner. Maybe next time Thurmond and Browner won't share each other's weed.

How long can you hold your breath? He may have to pull a Vilma and sue Herr Commish directly.

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 558763)
How long can you hold your breath? He may have to pull a Vilma and sue Herr Commish directly.

That is exactly what they are going to do. The league screwed up royally on this one and Browner would not take a settlement offer, we wants his suspension expunged.

AlaskaSaints 12-10-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558694)
I never heard Sherman use the term "bad calls". He said the refs calls "affected the game". The problem that I see is inconsistency. Most weeks they allow grabbing of the jersey but this week they didn't. The Hawks had every break in the world go against them (blocked punt, 53 yard field goal, weird offensive penalties) and yet lost by two points and had the lead until the last drive. Just let the teams decide the game is all I am saying. As far as the future goes, the Niners have scored one touchdown on us all year...

You mean like the call at the end of the Seahawks/Packers game?

Alaska

|Mitch| 12-10-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558765)
Browner would not take a settlement offer, we wants his suspension expunged.

Good luck with that, Roger is very vindictive :rolleyes:

Seahawks12th 12-10-2013 05:47 PM

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You mean like the call at the end of the Seahawks/Packers game?

Alaska

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TheOak 12-11-2013 07:34 AM

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That is exactly what they are going to do. The league screwed up royally on this one and Browner would not take a settlement offer, we wants his suspension expunged.

No offense intended but you guys get a little carried away with your drama... "expunged"? There is no expungement of a suspension.. lol

I will also add that an expungement is for a first time offender. The league hasn't damaged Browners career or reputation, Brandon browner did that to him self .. Twice.

Seahawks12th 12-11-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 558885)
No offense intended but you guys get a little carried away with your drama... "expunged"? There is no expungement of a suspension.. lol

I will also add that an expungement is for a first time offender. The league hasn't damaged Browners career or reputation, Brandon browner did that to him self .. Twice.

There isn't?? He has yet to lose any games. Explain?

TheOak 12-11-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 558978)
There isn't?? He has yet to lose any games. Explain?

Losing games is moot. A sentence for a crime can be vacated. Sherman wants his suspension vacated before he actually misses a game.

Expongement is something that comes after to completely remove a record or a name from a record, or to make it hidden. An expongement is to prevent something from counting against you again later and is a legal action..


This is the NFL brother... There are no legal proceedings going on. I suppose the next step is for the 12th man to petition SCOTUS?

Seahawks12th 12-11-2013 10:34 PM

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Losing games is moot. A sentence for a crime can be vacated. Sherman wants his suspension vacated before he actually misses a game.

Expongement is something that comes after to completely remove a record or a name from a record, or to make it hidden. An expongement is to prevent something from counting against you again later and is a legal action..


This is the NFL brother... There are no legal proceedings going on. I suppose the next step is for the 12th man to petition SCOTUS?

Exponge isn't a word. expunge | Example Sentences at Dictionary.com Mobile. You can erase anything and in this case he is erasing his suspension. Yes "expunge" can be used in law but there is no precedent to its exclusivity. I gave you a dictionary definition with proper usage, read number 3.

TheOak 12-12-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 559119)
Exponge isn't a word. expunge | Example Sentences at Dictionary.com Mobile. You can erase anything and in this case he is erasing his suspension. Yes "expunge" can be used in law but there is no precedent to its exclusivity. I gave you a dictionary definition with proper usage, read number 3.

There, their, they're.... No need to go quoting the internet. It is however exactly what I expected you to come back with. I'm a function over form personality. You think my web browser didn't identify it's spelling as incorrect? You think I didn't view all of the usages via a dictionary?

Ironically your correcting my spelling of a word you are using that is contextually incorrect.

The etymology of expunge is Latin, meaning to erase. Since there is an appeal in action there is nothing to erase yet. An expungement can not happen until the appeals process is over.

It has been my experience that all Seahawk fans are legal experts, you'll have to pardon my assumption that you knew the correct usage.

To ex-sponge is to erase a record. Not to overturn a decision. Read the definitions you so generously provided, they state exactly what I am saying.

The suspension can be overturned, or vacated. The record of him failing the drug test can be expunged.

Burnplant 12-12-2013 10:32 AM

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Maybe you should make up a police report about the Seahawks getting assaulted by the Niners? That should help you get over the Aints not making the playoffs.

Oh, liar.

Seahawks12th 12-12-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 559159)
There, their, they're.... No need to go quoting the internet. It is however exactly what I expected you to come back with. I'm a function over form personality. You think my web browser didn't identify it's spelling as incorrect? You think I didn't view all of the usages via a dictionary?

Ironically your correcting my spelling of a word you are using that is contextually incorrect.

The etymology of expunge is Latin, meaning to erase. Since there is an appeal in action there is nothing to erase yet. An expungement can not happen until the appeals process is over.

It has been my experience that all Seahawk fans are legal experts, you'll have to pardon my assumption that you knew the correct usage.

To ex-sponge is to erase a record. Not to overturn a decision. Read the definitions you so generously provided, they state exactly what I am saying.

The suspension can be overturned, or vacated. The record of him failing the drug test can be expunged.

You are referencing the written file, I am denoting the actual suspension. Your argument was there is no ambiguous usage of the word expunge and that isn't true as I have already prefaced with dictionary.com.

TheOak 12-12-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 559207)
You are referencing the written file, I am denoting the actual suspension. Your argument was there is no ambiguous usage of the word expunge and that isn't true as I have already prefaced with dictionary.com.

No. I argued that you used it arbitrarily. Ambiguity in a statement benefits the party that did not draft it. The onus is on you and all you have done is crawfish and deflect.

Back on point. The suspension (verb) can not be expunged.
expunge | Example Sentences at Dictionary.com Mobile
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Seahawks12th 12-12-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 559212)
No. I argued that you used it arbitrarily. Ambiguity in a statement benefits the party that did not draft it. The onus is on you and all you have done is crawfish and deflect.

Back on point. The suspension (verb) can not be expunged.
expunge | Example Sentences at Dictionary.com Mobile

Are you obtuse?? WOW. First you make up the word "exponge" twice, which doesn't even exist.

2nd there will be legal proceedings if they ban Browner, hence he has threatened them with a federal lawsuit and he will ask that the level three offense be "expunged" from his file. Files can be expunged that are not necessarily federal records. You have have contradicted yourself and are only making the matter worse.

I don't think you understand the difference between the literal and figurative. "erased" can be figurative as to, "Erase from ones mind" and can be literal as in, "erased from ones record" which was substantiated from my dictionary precedent. Sorry chump but YOU LOSE!!! I was nice but gloves come off now..

Instead of making yourself look like a fool, you should have clarified "to which" use was I to declare the word "expunge" in the original interpretation.

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Seahawks12th 12-12-2013 02:49 PM

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No. I argued that you used it arbitrarily. Ambiguity in a statement benefits the party that did not draft it. The onus is on you and all you have done is crawfish and deflect.

Back on point. The suspension (verb) can not be expunged.
expunge | Example Sentences at Dictionary.com Mobile

DOH!!

SmashMouth 12-12-2013 06:58 PM

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OK.... it appears the subject has veered far enough from the OP.

Time to move on.


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