irrelevant for who? certainly not irrelevant for the millions of people who feel they have to hide what they are for fear of being persecuted, or worse.....




Basically about as absurd as you saying everything but, there's no fear or hate towards anybody who wants to come out and be gay in today's society.... I hope I said that right, I took all the big words out..... Lol.....

Just exactly who is persecuting them anymore?

um, 36 states, the Federal government (DOMA), Chick-fil-a, Urban Oufitters, Putin, Ahmadinejad, the Boy Scouts, and high school jocks everywhere

Do you seriously believe you are more persecuted for your beliefs than a gay person is for their lifestyle?

and by 'anymore', do you mean that the persecution should continue?

Should the persecution continue?
You left out "gun nuts"... For some reason owning multiple guns makes you a nut but owning multiple cameras makes you a photographer.

Before you comment about guns that are used in crimes... Child Pornography is much more rampant locally and globally.

Oak, what did I say about guns?

um, 36 states, the Federal government (DOMA), Chick-fil-a, Urban Oufitters, Putin, Ahmadinejad, the Boy Scouts, and high school jocks everywhere

Do you seriously believe you are more persecuted for your beliefs than a gay person is for their lifestyle?

and by 'anymore', do you mean that the persecution should continue?

All those groups and/or states that you just mentioned have taken personal stance, just as I do, and that is in no way persecuting them. They are not being denied service at chik-fil-a or any other place. And 36 states that oppose gay marriage are trying to protect something that used to be sacred and not intended for same sex relationships.

state and federal governments do not take personal stances

The whole reason for marriage comes from the Bible. So if you're a non believer and you want to, in essence, give the word of God the middle finger, then you have no reason to be married. Just live together, and do whatever it is you want to do.

In the bible many men (Esau, Gideon, etc) had multiple wives. Were these bonds also sacred?
And what of the cultures that did not have access to a bible until the Romans showed up or a thousand years later, the missionaries? These ancient cultures had marriages, ceremonies, titles...Were they not married?

Now as far as foreign countries, don't even bother going there. Christians, females (regardless of beliefs) gays , jews, all get murdered all the time. You're talking about brutal dictatorships. Let's not compare them to our country. You're embarrassing yourself with that one.

I am embarrassing myself? You proved my point

And as for your question, I don't consider myself persecuted. I used the word pressure. People like me can get fired from our jobs for saying something as simple as "I think homosexuality is wrong" out loud where someone who disagrees with me might complain. But if that same person were to call me a bigot for my beliefs, nothing would happen to that person. Because heaven forbid we upset a homosexual and have it blow up all over the news about how "intolerent" this person's boss is. It blows up just that quick, and you see it on tv just about every day now.

And why did I say "anymore"? I can't believe I have to explain this, but I'll humor you. Because whereas this country used to take a moral stand (and yes, there was also a greater number of radicals who hated gays rather than simply disagreeing with them) it now praises people for their "courage" and practically forces others to do the same. So there really isn't persecution "anymore". You may have a few isolated incidents, but for every issue involving a gay person there is one for every other person or culture nowadays.

Just exactly who is persecuting them anymore? I don't get any special treatment for being straight, but this guy sure will for being gay, and don't even tell me you don't know what I'm talking about.

The pressure is far more on people like me who disagree with that lifestyle. I don't have much in the way of freedom of speech when it comes this type of subject. But this guy decides to come out and tell the world something that no one was previously the least bit concerned with, and he is now being treated as a hero.