Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons

rezburna · 03-28-2014, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

What do you suspect the real reason is?

They didn't want to pay up that 10 million and felt they could replace his production on top of the fact that he's clearly been a Vick guy the whole time and doesn't want to play with Foles. They know these boys have gang ties before the draft. Especially the boys from Cali.

Utah_Saint · 03-28-2014, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

They didn't want to pay up that 10 million and felt they could replace his production on top of the fact that he's clearly been a Vick guy the whole time and doesn't want to play with Foles. They know these boys have gang ties before the draft. Especially the boys from Cali.

The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson"

I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson.

But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky).

rezburna · 03-28-2014, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson"

I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson.

But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky).

He just wore out his welcome. He's not an organization first type of guy. He's a diva. Not the type you can't overcome, but I'm pretty sure Chip Kelly just got tired of hearing him chirp and I wouldn't be surprised if he was vocal about wanting Vick to start in the locker room. He's definitely a thuggish guy, but I like that. I don't doubt he's gang affiliated, hell, I grew up affiliated with Bloods my whole life and have no criminal record. Its A Cop Out To me.

rezburna · 03-28-2014, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson"

I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson.

But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky).

Where do you think he ends up?

WillSaints81 · 03-30-2014, 07:48 PM

Does Atlanta have room for him anyways? Besides he would be taking a backseat to Jones and White and is beatable when someone wants to cover him.

Luda34 · 03-30-2014, 09:35 PM

I wouldn't mind Desean on our team especially with our offense

Crusader · 03-31-2014, 01:58 AM

Too expensive and probably too much of an headache to be worth signing for us.

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 07:11 AM

He was released because of quite a few things:

1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama.

2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism.

3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada...
You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards.

Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS.

Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk.

I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that.

Star Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson cut after alleged ties to Crips street gang revealed | Mail Online

rezburna · 03-31-2014, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He was released because of quite a few things:

1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama.

2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism.

3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada...
You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards.

Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS.

Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk.

I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that.

Star Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson cut after alleged ties to Crips street gang revealed | Mail Online

I was just brought up knowing how to separate your professional life and social life. I was born in New Orleans. The 9th Ward as you know. I went to elementary school were the racial demographics were 50/50 over here in Mississippi. I did a year of middle school were the demographics started to lean more in favor of blacks, and for the first time ever I began to consistently be in trouble. More because of who I hung around then what I was doing. The only thing that saved me was the fact the teachers recognized my grades were all A's, and were more lenient. We moved, and I finished my grade schooling career at a place were it was 90% white, and I never had any trouble at any point in time. And I'm not saying that to make it a racial thing, but only to make my point. That taught me how to deal with EVERYONE. Because everybody is different. I could blend. The white kids couldn't really understand how I talked. I learned to change that up around them. I didn't flash the gang banging ties around them or at the school because I knew it would only hold me back. Same goes for my music. I don't often reference the Blood ties because it only brings drama. So I agree with you in that aspect. It was dumb for Desean to throw up the C's (I'm throwing up in my mouth...ugh) in a game. But I think it was a heat of the moment, knee jerk reaction. Anybody who came up around that kind of goes back to that as a crutch when in a confrontation. Like a dog showing it's teeth if you will. Not to mention gangs have become more of a glorified part of Hip Hop, and EVERYBODY thinks they're in them now. It's a little deeper then what's seen on the surface. I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.

Danno · 03-31-2014, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.

Can you see the irony in that statement? There isn't a F'ing thing honorable about robbery, murder or dealing drugs.

Two words "bro"...Electric Bleachers

03-28-2014, 07:13 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by Utah_Saint What do you suspect the real reason is? They didn't want to pay up that 10 million and felt they could replace his production on top of the fact that he's clearly been a Vick guy the whole time and doesn't want to play with Foles. They know these boys have gang ties before the draft. Especially the boys from Cali.

03-28-2014, 07:33 PM	#2
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by rezburna They didn't want to pay up that 10 million and felt they could replace his production on top of the fact that he's clearly been a Vick guy the whole time and doesn't want to play with Foles. They know these boys have gang ties before the draft. Especially the boys from Cali. The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson" I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson. But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky).

03-28-2014, 08:52 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by Utah_Saint The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson" I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson. But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky). He just wore out his welcome. He's not an organization first type of guy. He's a diva. Not the type you can't overcome, but I'm pretty sure Chip Kelly just got tired of hearing him chirp and I wouldn't be surprised if he was vocal about wanting Vick to start in the locker room. He's definitely a thuggish guy, but I like that. I don't doubt he's gang affiliated, hell, I grew up affiliated with Bloods my whole life and have no criminal record. Its A Cop Out To me.

03-28-2014, 08:53 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by Utah_Saint The reason the Eagles gave was "After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson" I agree with you that they didn't want to pay $10million per year for Desean Jackson. But $10million is about right for 1300 yards per season. It's not out of line. So either they don't think they need a 1300 yard receiver (doubtful), they think they can develop someone else to get 1300 yards(cheaper), which would indicate he's a product of their system or as the reported "rumors" they're worried about his gang affiliations (too risky). Where do you think he ends up?

03-30-2014, 07:48 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Does Atlanta have room for him anyways? Besides he would be taking a backseat to Jones and White and is beatable when someone wants to cover him.

03-30-2014, 09:35 PM	#6
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons I wouldn't mind Desean on our team especially with our offense rezburna likes this.

03-31-2014, 01:58 AM	#7
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Too expensive and probably too much of an headache to be worth signing for us.

03-31-2014, 07:11 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons He was released because of quite a few things: 1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama. 2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism. 3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada... You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards. Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS. Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk. I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that. Star Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson cut after alleged ties to Crips street gang revealed \| Mail Online
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03-31-2014, 04:50 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by TheOak He was released because of quite a few things: 1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama. 2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism. 3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada... You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards. Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS. Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk. I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that. Star Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson cut after alleged ties to Crips street gang revealed \| Mail Online I was just brought up knowing how to separate your professional life and social life. I was born in New Orleans. The 9th Ward as you know. I went to elementary school were the racial demographics were 50/50 over here in Mississippi. I did a year of middle school were the demographics started to lean more in favor of blacks, and for the first time ever I began to consistently be in trouble. More because of who I hung around then what I was doing. The only thing that saved me was the fact the teachers recognized my grades were all A's, and were more lenient. We moved, and I finished my grade schooling career at a place were it was 90% white, and I never had any trouble at any point in time. And I'm not saying that to make it a racial thing, but only to make my point. That taught me how to deal with EVERYONE. Because everybody is different. I could blend. The white kids couldn't really understand how I talked. I learned to change that up around them. I didn't flash the gang banging ties around them or at the school because I knew it would only hold me back. Same goes for my music. I don't often reference the Blood ties because it only brings drama. So I agree with you in that aspect. It was dumb for Desean to throw up the C's (I'm throwing up in my mouth...ugh) in a game. But I think it was a heat of the moment, knee jerk reaction. Anybody who came up around that kind of goes back to that as a crutch when in a confrontation. Like a dog showing it's teeth if you will. Not to mention gangs have become more of a glorified part of Hip Hop, and EVERYBODY thinks they're in them now. It's a little deeper then what's seen on the surface. I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.
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03-31-2014, 05:39 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons Originally Posted by rezburna I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary. Can you see the irony in that statement? There isn't a F'ing thing honorable about robbery, murder or dealing drugs. Two words "bro"...Electric Bleachers

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