Falcons offer Bush two years, $4.5 million
 

The offer sheet that restricted free-agent safety Rafael Bush signed with the Atlanta Falcons is worth $4.5 million over two years, a league source told The Advocate. The source also said Bush is hoping the New Orleans Saints won’t match the deal because Atlanta is offering a chance at a starting job.

Atlanta Falcons offer Rafael Bush two years, $4.5 million - ESPN

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Should we match it?

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Not no but He11 Neaux!!

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Doesn't matter if we should match, if he wants to start then that ain't going to happen here, 4.5M is too much for a 3rd safety in our defense

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Isn't any decent safety going to cost around $2M a year anyway? Why not retain a young guy that has shown promise instead of replacing him with a veteran that will likely cost about the same?

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What veteran? We signed Marcus Ball to replace him at 3 year 1.5 million total around 500,000 a year

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Hey, don't get me wrong, because I like to see the positives in all of our signings, too, but you're putting all of your eggs into the Marcus Ball basket? The guy that is so good that he spent the last two seasons in Canada? He's going to be our third safety on a team that likes 3 safety sets? Also, that's who we're going to count on if one of our starters goes down with an injury? During a "super bowl or bust" season? That's a lot of questions, but I just want to make sure I'm following you.

You can most certainly count on at least one more safety (probably a veteran) being added to this group. Why not Bush?

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Because he wants to start and wouldn't get that opportunity here, he's already said that he doesn't want the Saints to match. And do you really want to pay a 3rd safety 2 million a year?

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I don't really care about what he said. He'll play ball for whoever signs him. As for the money, I don't think any other reliable backup will cost much less. Maybe we bring Jim Leonhard back for cheap. It just seems to me that during what everyone is calling a "super bowl or bust" season you'd want a better backup plan at safety than a CFL project and some UDFA to be picked up at a later date.

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Well it seems that the coaches feel differently, because it doesn't look like they're going to match and the CFL "project" is the backup plan right now... For all I know, they could draft a mid round safety or White could play more safety :confused:

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True. I just wouldn't have as much of a problem with them matching as others have suggested. I'd say that if he isn't brought back then you could probably count on a late round safety being picked...

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Champ Bailey playing some safety.

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You are right but I would prefer he stay at corner & help groom the younger guys. With his decline in speed, I'm not sure playing center field would be the best spot for him at this stage of his career.

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But a three safety look with Bailey, Vaccaro, and Byrd with Lewis and Robinson on the corners has lots of potential :bng:

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I like that!! But we still have a hole at the back-up FS spot. Bush was more of a SS to me and Bailey should get some good looks at the SS position and play well.

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Bush is retained! Sweet!

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Yeah.... I get to keep my Bush jersey after all!

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I have not seen any Superbowl or Bust, comments.

Champ wanted to play S in Denver they wouldn't move him.

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Most of the NFL pundits I hear are saying that the Saints are obviously going "all in" for another Super Bowl before Brees is "done".

Champ said he "would" play safety. "Would", in my mind, is much different than "want"....

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The "or bust season" means one. It is highly doubtful that Drew is done after this season. Its the off season and the pundits need something to speculate on. There is nothing "or bust" about the 2014 season.

If your going to play literal with "would" or "want", then "bust" has no place in this season, for the most part its a youth movement.

I also find a huge flaw in the theory that with out Drew Brees our defense becomes worse, our running game gets worse, Sean Payton becomes a bad coach, Graham gets worse, our receivers stop catching... The group that found Drew Brees and brought him to New Orleans will find his successor and we will be equally as successful.

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I read into "super bowl or bust" only as "win the super bowl or don't win the super bowl". If you see me use that phrase then by no means do I mean "bust" as going 0-16.

As much as I love Drew and hope he plays forever, to deny that a physical decline is likely at his age and older is wishful thinking at best, and to imply that our HOF caliber QB is not a key cog in our run at another super bowl or that those type of players are dime-a-dozen and easily replaced is a bit delusional.

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There is no implication that Drew is an easily replaceable commodity. Would you say Drew is an elite QB? Jimmy Graham is an elite TE? Having 2 elite players on the same side of the ball at the same time doesn't just happen to every team or many. It isn't luck, it's Sean Payton. Drew Brees wasn't elite at San Diego.

Sean Payton adjusts our game plan according to rising and falling players and there is no doomsday clock on his success. We won a SN without Graham and Drew retiring isn't going to make us an 8-8 team.

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I don't believe that Brees' retirement makes us an 8-8 team either. Stop putting words in my mouth. I do believe that he is an important piece to our chances right now. Yes, Coach Payton has some to do with Brees becoming a FHOF QB, as well as the success of Jimmy Graham, but by no means is Coach Payton solely responsible for that. It's purely a case of a "special player" (or two) joining up with a "special coach", and, yes, some of that is luck. I think that even Coach Payton, being the apparent football god that he is, would consider himself "lucky" to have those guys.

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