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Crusader 05-11-2015 04:48 PM

Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
The Patriots will begin their Super Bowl title defense without the services of the franchise's greatest all-time player.

The NFL announced Monday that Tom Brady has been suspended without pay for four games for violating the NFL policy on the integrity of the game. This news comes less than a week after independent investigator Ted Wells found that it was "more probable than not" that Brady was "at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities" regarding the deflation of Patriots game balls used in the AFC Championship Game against the Colts.

The team will also be fined $1 million and will forfeit a 2016 first rounder and 2017 fourth-round selection in the NFL Draft.

Last year's second-round pick Jimmy Garoppolo is expected get the starting nod against the Pittsburgh Steelers when the season gets underway September 10. Brady will return when the Patriots take on the Colts in Week 6. These will be the first games that Brady has missed since he tore his ACL in Week 1 of the 2008 season.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft commented on the matter last week, saying his team "had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules." He indicated, however, the team would accept any punishment the league hands down.

The story first became a national topic in the build up to the Super Bowl. Both Brady and Belichick vehemently denied doing anything wrong to the footballs before the game against the Colts.

"At no time was there any intent -- whatsoever -- to try and compromise the integrity of the game," Belichick said back in January. "I believe now, 100 percent, that I have personally and (the Patriots) have absolutely followed every rule to the letter," he added.

Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games - NFL.com

MistaBigXXL 05-11-2015 04:49 PM

Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tom-br...QDBHNlYwNzcg--

hitta 05-11-2015 04:51 PM

Re: Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
I think it's kind of ridiculous that they could suspend them without real evidence... but they did the same thing to us... so meh.

dam1953 05-11-2015 04:52 PM

Re: Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
What are the odds that this gets negotiated down? My bet is one game suspension.

73Saint 05-11-2015 04:53 PM

Re: Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
prolly get it appealed to two. Belicheck should get a year just like Payton.

brees84 05-11-2015 04:56 PM

Re: Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
NFL cares only about the money. His first game after suspension: Sunday night football on NBC. Brady vs Colts

SmashMouth 05-11-2015 05:01 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
BB not gone for a year like SP was.

Go ahead and sue like Vilma did...

:popcorn:

hitta 05-11-2015 05:01 PM

Re: Tom Brady suspended 4 games for deflategate
 
I know it'll be reduced down probably.... and quite frankly I could give a damn about Tom Brady, but I mean has anyone read the report. Everything in it was incredibly circumstantial. The idea that they could suspend someone based on it is absurd.

K Major 05-11-2015 05:08 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
The forfeiture of 2016 draft picks will sting a little but I was hoping for more.

RaginCajun83 05-11-2015 05:15 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Not only is it a slap on the wrist but the punishment is a crock of ****. If not for the Saints Id be done with the NFL as long as Chief Dumbf**k is the commissioner.

SloMotion 05-11-2015 05:15 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
So who's the backup? :lol:

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncsta...5_220.JPG?ve=1

RaginCajun83 05-11-2015 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 655232)
The forfeiture of 2016 draft picks will sting a little but I was hoping for more.

It's a fourth rounder BFD

SmashMouth 05-11-2015 05:18 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Confirmed: 6 Game Suspension for Brady | New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard

Tom Brady suspended four games for his role in #DeflateGate | ProFootballTalk

The punishment - Patriots Planet - New England Patriots Forums and Message Boards

Danno 05-11-2015 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 655235)
It's a fourth rounder BFD


The team will also be fined $1 million and will forfeit a 2016 first rounder and 2017 fourth-round selection in the NFL Draft.

SmashMouth 05-11-2015 05:41 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Bill Belichick exonerated of wrongdoing on Deflategate | ProFootballTalk

Not knowing was not an excuse for SP. Shouldn't be here either.


Deflategate punishment for Patriots not crazy, but overly harsh | The Blitz | with Jeff Howe & Karen Guregian | Boston Herald

Deflategate fine equals NFL's largest ever | Boston Herald

Beastmode 05-11-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
I think it's the right call. Really sick of them lying and never admitting any wrong doing, that's twice now they were caught pretty much red handed and he claims bs both times. Just admit you cheated, you got caught.

Own it. And Kraft is still running his mouth. He and Brady both put targets on their backs by making a mockery of the situation.

QBREES9 05-11-2015 05:50 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
What a SHOCK!!!!!! LOL NOT! Really four games and a million dollars WOW!

vpheughan 05-11-2015 06:40 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
and Bill Clinton "Did not have sexual relations with that woman!!!!!!"

Beastmode 05-11-2015 07:30 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 655260)
and Bill Clinton "Did not have sexual relations with that woman!!!!!!"

He was not beating his chest though like Brady and Kraft.

Kraft was asking for an apology from the NFL while the investigation was still ongoing! I watched Brady on Letterman turning it into a comedy bit, again, the investigation was not complete, he also refused to give up his texts.

RG may be getting closer to honing his his judgement skills. He almost hit the dart board this time.

NOLA54 05-11-2015 07:51 PM

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GOOD!

Mr.Riaton 05-11-2015 08:09 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
I'm sitting here watching NFL network,and 'deflategate' is the hot topic for at least an hour and a half now and analysts and ex-patriot players are coming out of the woodworks supporting the Pats and saying the punishment does not fit the crime and they prepare harder than anybody else blah,blah,blah.. Does anybody else remember the Saints getting that kind of treatment? All I remember is our team being drug through the mud and disgraced like a piece of trash.

SmashMouth 05-11-2015 08:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 655275)
I'm sitting here watching NFL network,and 'deflategate' is the hot topic for at least an hour and a half now and analysts and ex-patriot players are coming out of the woodworks supporting the Pats and saying the punishment does not fit the crime and they prepare harder than anybody else blah,blah,blah.. Does anybody else remember the Saints getting that kind of treatment? All I remember is our team being drug through the mud and disgraced like a piece of trash.

They all have short memories... kinda makes you want to :puke:.

voodooido 05-11-2015 08:59 PM

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Freaking joke. Saints got hammered and Brady and the Pats get a slap on the hand.

QBREES9 05-11-2015 09:28 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...233900364.html

neugey 05-11-2015 09:42 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
IMO the punishment seems about right, for both Brady and the Pats organization. Probably because this one was Vincent's call. Oh snap! #GuckFooddell

saintfan 05-11-2015 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 655291)
IMO the punishment seems about right, for both Brady and the Pats organization. Probably because this one was Vincent's call. Oh snap! #GuckFooddell

Bill should go down too, based on what happened to Sean. Ignorance is no excuse...unless you're the Patriots HC I guess...

OldMaid 05-11-2015 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 655277)
Freaking joke. Saints got hammered and Brady and the Pats get a slap on the hand.


It was literally, a lost season for the Saints. It was a huge turning point right after still being on a roll.

OldMaid 05-11-2015 11:04 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
I was in disbelief here for a bit when I saw this . Really ? NFL did WHAT to the NEPats...NAH!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't be true!
It is good pr for NFL and Goodell.
Satisfies fans and the other teams and the media too.
Do something!!
The something is very minor for a something you say, well, did they or didn't they do .
NEPats and fans should just take it take it for what it is .
The fine, lost of picks, and 4-game suspension for TB is really minor.

Cruize 05-12-2015 12:00 AM

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NFL Kangaroo Court. Saints got hosed. Patriots got hosed. Panthers having to pay Hardy got hosed. Ray Rice got hosed by getting his original punishment raised after the video the the NFL Office saw first came out. The Falclowns cheating for two years and getting tapped gently on the wrist. No rhyme or reason.

hagan714 05-12-2015 12:08 AM

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I am stumped. Saints fans should be angry at the NFL not the pats. did anyone read the report? It is almost as big of a joke as ours. would of could of should of in a game of horse shoes and hand grenades.

Biggest disgrace to the NFL name is the the NFL taking millions from the defense department for honoring the troops at a time when the government is screwing troops over.

to me that is the true disgrace to the NFL.

arsaint 05-12-2015 01:45 AM

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Pats HAD to be hit after what this tyrant of a commissioner did to the Saints and others.

That being said - we've all been screwed as football fans thanks to Goodell. He will be the downfall of the league if he stays much longer...

burningmetal 05-12-2015 04:36 AM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
I'm pretty shocked that they got this much punishment. I wanted to see it happen only because of what the NFL did to us, and not as much about the act of deflating balls, itself. I fully expected a slap on the wrist.

I think Brady's suspension will easily be reduced to two games. The evidence, though circumstantial, was stronger than anything they had against us. With the bounty crap it was all about terminology and what was said in pre or postgame rants. But on the field there was no such activity that would indicate anybody was trying to hurt anyone. There were big hits and sometimes injuries DO HAPPEN in the NFL but the targeting just wasn't there.

At least with the deflated balls, we know they were tested and were all below the legal limit, and were the same exact PSI. They may not have proved who was at fault or how long it's been going on, but we at least had something to go on.

Yet the public outcry is unbelievable right now in comparison to what it was for the Saints. NOW everyone wants Roger to show the evidence, whereas we Saints fans were in the minority when we were screaming for it.

SloMotion 05-12-2015 05:17 AM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 655275)
I'm sitting here watching NFL network,and 'deflategate' is the hot topic for at least an hour and a half now and analysts and ex-patriot players are coming out of the woodworks supporting the Pats and saying the punishment does not fit the crime and they prepare harder than anybody else blah,blah,blah.. Does anybody else remember the Saints getting that kind of treatment? All I remember is our team being drug through the mud and disgraced like a piece of trash.

IDK, a million dollars has to be a lot even to a guy like Kraft. Loss of a first round pick? Meh, where do they typically pick? 30th? 31st? 32nd? Suspend the SB MVP four games? A little misplaced/misdirected IMO, but I'll accept it as an example to the rest of the league ... just don't reduce it to two games on appeal if you want some respect, :neutral:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 655302)
It was literally, a lost season for the Saints. It was a huge turning point right after still being on a roll.

Excellent point, :) ... you knew the Saints punishment was going to have a dramatic affect on their season. This punishment? Not so much for NE. How they hold SP accountable for what goes on and completely absolve Belicheck is a little beyond me, :neutral:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 655307)
NFL Kangaroo Court. Saints got hosed. Patriots got hosed. Panthers having to pay Hardy got hosed. Ray Rice got hosed by getting his original punishment raised after the video the the NFL Office saw first came out. The Falclowns cheating for two years and getting tapped gently on the wrist. No rhyme or reason.

Another 'bingo'. Private organization, they can do what they want with/without rythmn/reason or tangible proof ... we've all seen that, :rolleyes:.

It's Roger paying lip-service to integrity of the game just as he paid lip-service to player safety by singling out NO. These are common practices within the league brought to the forefront by a disgruntled player or team and now he has to act and set an example, IMO, nothing more.

During all the time it has been speculated (2006-2014) the Pats were deflating the balls, having less fumbles, winning games, et ... weren't the referees handling the balls between every play of every game? Nobody noticed anything out of the ordinary then? Why'd it take so long? Why'd it take a team to call it to the attention of the NFL to get ball pressure checked during a game? The NFL/Referees Association has some culpability here. Why do QB's like Peyton Manning refuse to comment? Pleading the Fifth if you ask this reporter, ;).

I knew Goodell would f@#k the whole thing up ... again, :rolleyes:.

arsaint 05-12-2015 08:13 AM

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Quote:

I knew Goodell would f@#k the whole thing up ... again, :rolleyes:.
A guarantee. Everything this commissioner touches turns to crap.

papz 05-12-2015 08:49 AM

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papz 05-12-2015 08:54 AM

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Ex-Saints and retired Pro Bowl quarterback Jeff Blake confessed in an interview that removing air from footballs was common when he played in the NFL from 1992-2005.

"I'm just going to let the cat of the bag, every team does it, every game, it has been since I played," the ex-Jets QB said Wednesday in a radio interview on the "Midday 180" show on Nashville's 104.5 The Zone. "Cause when you take the balls out of the bag, they are rock hard. And you can't feel the ball as well. It's too hard.

"Everybody puts the pin in and takes just enough air out of the ball that you can feel it a little better. But it's not the point to where it's flat. So I don't know what the big deal is. It's not something that's not been done for 20 years."

Blake says that he'd order ball boys to let air out of his footballs just before the start of games during his entire NFL career, which included time with the New Orleans Saints in 2000 and 2001.

Beastmode 05-12-2015 10:09 AM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Times have changed since Blake. Cameras, smartphones everywhere. You can't do that stuff anymore, along with a lot of other things and get away with it as easily.

vpheughan 05-12-2015 10:18 AM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Like Shannon Sharpe said "You ask Me if I cheated, I tell you Hell No!" not "I don't think so"

RaginCajun83 05-12-2015 10:42 AM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 655241)
The team will also be fined $1 million and will forfeit a 2016 first rounder and 2017 fourth-round selection in the NFL Draft.

So what, it's still not enough

ScottF 05-12-2015 04:23 PM

Re: Patriots' Tom Brady suspended 4 games
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...165502937.html

the Pats new Twitter logo is supporting Brady,

"Brady 12" is also the Pats request for the psi in TB's footballs ;)
too bad the rule is 12.5-13.5


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