Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses

RaginCajun83 · 09-03-2015, 06:53 PM

if you ain't cheating you ain't trying

burningmetal · 09-03-2015, 09:12 PM

I guess some people will be happy that Goodell lost, but I don't care about that. I'm beyond irritated that Brady gets nothing, despite acting as guilty as one possibly could, and never cooperating. Yet we got the worst punishment in NFL history, despite the fact that nothing was hidden and all so-called evidence was a bunch of rhetorical nonsense. Nothing in games ever backed up the accusations. The same cannot be said for Brady and the Pats.

RailBoss · 09-04-2015, 01:16 AM

Who knows maybe the Judge owed Trump, seeing that Tom and The Donald are such close friends and chat everyday...........

SloMotion · 09-04-2015, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I guess some people will be happy that Goodell lost, but I don't care about that. I'm beyond irritated that Brady gets nothing, despite acting as guilty as one possibly could, and never cooperating. Yet we got the worst punishment in NFL history, despite the fact that nothing was hidden and all so-called evidence was a bunch of rhetorical nonsense. Nothing in games ever backed up the accusations. The same cannot be said for Brady and the Pats.

The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part.

The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug.

SaintsBro · 09-04-2015, 11:48 AM

In related news, out of the blue the other day I got a huge, long rambling Facebook message from an old friend of mine that I hadn't heard from in YEARS, who is a Boston native and a Pats fan. The gist of his long and rambling message: "Hey, I remember what happened to you guys, I do remember what you said about Goodell at the time, I remember how you howled and tried to warn us about that guy, and I know how I kinda blew you off, I didn't really come to your defense....but man oh man, I realize now that you guys were RIGHT about him, you got royally screwed by this guy. What Goodell is doing is completely ridiculous."

Pretty amazing rambling message, from a Pats guy who is the type who NEVER ever concedes anything.

TXGSP · 09-04-2015, 01:14 PM

With this ruling and the PR disaster that discipline has been over several years I wonder how many owners have the thoughts that appear to be in the FailClown owner's mind.

The Falcons' Owner Seems Pretty Fed Up With Roger Goodell

Blank talked to the Atlanta Journal Constitution about Goodell, and did that thing bosses are so good at doing: smuggle a finger wag into what appears to be a compliment:

“It’s not healthy for the NFL to be in the kind of litigious position that it’s been for last several years,” Blank said. “I think that the commissioner is working hard to hold up the respect and integrity of the game, the competitive balance of the game and the shield. Having said that, I think we have to find ways to get to a better place sooner with the NFLPA than the process that we’ve gone through.”

It would take the owners to make any changes to make this PR nightmare coming out of several courts to change the "Law of the shop".

CharityMike · 09-04-2015, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part.

The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug.

And to add to this, its Goodell fault as well for choosing Wells to do the investigation and expect anyone with a brain to not see the conflict of interest.
It was on the NFL to prove Brady guilty. They failed and now they gonna waste more time and money on an appeal to get to hear the same thing again.

SmashMouth · 09-04-2015, 08:00 PM

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CharityMike · 09-04-2015, 09:53 PM

Send Goodell off a tall bridge. That's a start for me..hehe

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burningmetal · 09-04-2015, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part.

The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug.

Well yeah, everyone agrees that Roger hasn't handled it well as usual. My point was that Brady made himself look as guilty as he possibly could. There wasn't 100% conclusive proof, but the circumstantial evidence was pretty obvious. Brady's behavior toward any attempt to get info out of him made it more obvious.

Was the crime worth 4 games? I never thought so. But he's getting nothing. We cooperated during the whole "bountygate" crap, and the supposed evidence were pieces of paper stating imaginary rewards for hurting players... None of those targeted players were actually hurt in the games. It was obvious rhetoric, and yet we lost our coach for the entire year, a couple players for half the season and lost draft picks.

That's my beef. We haven't learned anything new about Roger Goodell in this process. I want to know where the legal system was for the Saints.

09-03-2015, 06:53 PM	#21
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses if you ain't cheating you ain't trying

09-03-2015, 09:12 PM	#22
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses I guess some people will be happy that Goodell lost, but I don't care about that. I'm beyond irritated that Brady gets nothing, despite acting as guilty as one possibly could, and never cooperating. Yet we got the worst punishment in NFL history, despite the fact that nothing was hidden and all so-called evidence was a bunch of rhetorical nonsense. Nothing in games ever backed up the accusations. The same cannot be said for Brady and the Pats.

09-04-2015, 01:16 AM	#23
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses Who knows maybe the Judge owed Trump, seeing that Tom and The Donald are such close friends and chat everyday...........

09-04-2015, 06:32 AM	#24
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses Originally Posted by burningmetal I guess some people will be happy that Goodell lost, but I don't care about that. I'm beyond irritated that Brady gets nothing, despite acting as guilty as one possibly could, and never cooperating. Yet we got the worst punishment in NFL history, despite the fact that nothing was hidden and all so-called evidence was a bunch of rhetorical nonsense. Nothing in games ever backed up the accusations. The same cannot be said for Brady and the Pats. The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part. The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug. CharityMike likes this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses In related news, out of the blue the other day I got a huge, long rambling Facebook message from an old friend of mine that I hadn't heard from in YEARS, who is a Boston native and a Pats fan. The gist of his long and rambling message: "Hey, I remember what happened to you guys, I do remember what you said about Goodell at the time, I remember how you howled and tried to warn us about that guy, and I know how I kinda blew you off, I didn't really come to your defense....but man oh man, I realize now that you guys were RIGHT about him, you got royally screwed by this guy. What Goodell is doing is completely ridiculous." Pretty amazing rambling message, from a Pats guy who is the type who NEVER ever concedes anything.

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TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses With this ruling and the PR disaster that discipline has been over several years I wonder how many owners have the thoughts that appear to be in the FailClown owner's mind. The Falcons' Owner Seems Pretty Fed Up With Roger Goodell Blank talked to the Atlanta Journal Constitution about Goodell, and did that thing bosses are so good at doing: smuggle a finger wag into what appears to be a compliment: “It’s not healthy for the NFL to be in the kind of litigious position that it’s been for last several years,” Blank said. “I think that the commissioner is working hard to hold up the respect and integrity of the game, the competitive balance of the game and the shield. Having said that, I think we have to find ways to get to a better place sooner with the NFLPA than the process that we’ve gone through.” It would take the owners to make any changes to make this PR nightmare coming out of several courts to change the "Law of the shop".
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09-04-2015, 01:18 PM	#27
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses Originally Posted by SloMotion The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part. The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug. And to add to this, its Goodell fault as well for choosing Wells to do the investigation and expect anyone with a brain to not see the conflict of interest. It was on the NFL to prove Brady guilty. They failed and now they gonna waste more time and money on an appeal to get to hear the same thing again. SloMotion likes this.

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09-04-2015, 10:27 PM	#30
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brady suspension nullified...Goodell Loses Originally Posted by SloMotion The reason Brady got nothing is again on Goodell. Brady was willing to accept a one-game suspension, which was probably appropriate for the crime. Goodell was not willing to negotiate the punishment in good faith, instead insisting on an admission of guilt from Brady when he had absolutely no proof of wrongdoing on Brady's part. The judge just let Roger know how inconsistent, absurd & stupid his disciplinary policies are. No 'breaking news' there, #shrug. Well yeah, everyone agrees that Roger hasn't handled it well as usual. My point was that Brady made himself look as guilty as he possibly could. There wasn't 100% conclusive proof, but the circumstantial evidence was pretty obvious. Brady's behavior toward any attempt to get info out of him made it more obvious. Was the crime worth 4 games? I never thought so. But he's getting nothing. We cooperated during the whole "bountygate" crap, and the supposed evidence were pieces of paper stating imaginary rewards for hurting players... None of those targeted players were actually hurt in the games. It was obvious rhetoric, and yet we lost our coach for the entire year, a couple players for half the season and lost draft picks. That's my beef. We haven't learned anything new about Roger Goodell in this process. I want to know where the legal system was for the Saints. SmashMouth likes this.
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