N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block

RailBoss · 10-06-2015, 08:29 AM

There is a lot more to the Jimmy Graham story that will eventually come out. In the mean time he's in Seattle and were not, time to move on.

RaginCajun83 · 10-06-2015, 08:36 AM

move on, he's not on the team anymore

burningmetal · 10-06-2015, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

move on, he's not on the team anymore

I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy.

I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this.

RaginCajun83 · 10-06-2015, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy.

I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this.

Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them.

burningmetal · 10-06-2015, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them.

Perhaps that's the case for some, but I really don't see anything unusual about it, overall. It seems to me that because he was a popular player, some people don't want to hear anything about him now that he's no longer on the team.

Other players who move on from us get all kinds of smack talk, and no one flinches. Like I said, it's relevant what Jimmy's doing (or not doing) when you consider how much whining is still going on about trading him in the first place. It'll die down...

Seahawks12th · 10-06-2015, 03:57 PM

He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

dizzle88 · 10-06-2015, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

Seahawks12th · 10-06-2015, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

halloween 65 · 10-06-2015, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Good question. Depends on the F.O. We're cash straped now and 30 mill. just on Brees next season. Factor in age vs. extention+ hard call. But I will say if they don't try to surrond him with great pieces(O-line-G and T in particular) we want go far + our D has to at least be good so it might be a moot point resigning him. Then you roll the dice on a franchise qb.

dizzle88 · 10-06-2015, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Exactly, they did the same thing to Lance Moore and he became a Saints legend.

It's difficult to tell, the rookies we have on D seem perfect pieces to build upon - Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux and Damian Swann

In my opinion Payton refused to Address WR and Whilst Willie Snead has been a very nice surprise so far, teams can key on Brandin Cooks because at this moment in time, the names Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Josh Hill or Ben Watson do not exactly strike fear in opponents hearts. Hopefully Spiller finally getting healthy with play a big role.

Next offseason and draft will be key in my opinion, I believe it will be the continued process of retooling for life after Brees, which I think is the 2017 season - I don't personally see us resigning a guy that would be 38 Years old unless he looks completely dominant.

10-06-2015, 08:29 AM	#1
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block There is a lot more to the Jimmy Graham story that will eventually come out. In the mean time he's in Seattle and were not, time to move on.

10-06-2015, 08:36 AM	#2
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block move on, he's not on the team anymore

10-06-2015, 09:34 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 move on, he's not on the team anymore I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy. I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this. 44Champs likes this.

10-06-2015, 10:20 AM	#4
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by burningmetal I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy. I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this. Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them.

10-06-2015, 10:29 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them. Perhaps that's the case for some, but I really don't see anything unusual about it, overall. It seems to me that because he was a popular player, some people don't want to hear anything about him now that he's no longer on the team. Other players who move on from us get all kinds of smack talk, and no one flinches. Like I said, it's relevant what Jimmy's doing (or not doing) when you consider how much whining is still going on about trading him in the first place. It'll die down... 44Champs likes this.

10-06-2015, 03:57 PM	#6
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats. halloween 65 likes this.

10-06-2015, 04:23 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats. We all said it on the day of the trade. Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen. Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him. frydaddy, halloween 65 and brees84 like this.

10-06-2015, 04:41 PM	#8
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by dizzle88 We all said it on the day of the trade. Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen. Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him. My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? dizzle88 likes this.

10-06-2015, 04:54 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? Good question. Depends on the F.O. We're cash straped now and 30 mill. just on Brees next season. Factor in age vs. extention+ hard call. But I will say if they don't try to surrond him with great pieces(O-line-G and T in particular) we want go far + our D has to at least be good so it might be a moot point resigning him. Then you roll the dice on a franchise qb.

10-06-2015, 05:23 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? Exactly, they did the same thing to Lance Moore and he became a Saints legend. It's difficult to tell, the rookies we have on D seem perfect pieces to build upon - Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux and Damian Swann In my opinion Payton refused to Address WR and Whilst Willie Snead has been a very nice surprise so far, teams can key on Brandin Cooks because at this moment in time, the names Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Josh Hill or Ben Watson do not exactly strike fear in opponents hearts. Hopefully Spiller finally getting healthy with play a big role. Next offseason and draft will be key in my opinion, I believe it will be the continued process of retooling for life after Brees, which I think is the 2017 season - I don't personally see us resigning a guy that would be 38 Years old unless he looks completely dominant.
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