N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block

halloween 65 · 10-06-2015, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

Thanks for taking Puddin' off our hands, Unger is a stud, jurys out on our #31 draft pick Anthony in my opionion so far. But all in all, yeah you got fleeced.

Seahawks12th · 10-06-2015, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

halloween 65 · 10-06-2015, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

I'm loving Willie. Watching him come out of nowhere and play as well as he does is like a breath of fresh air for the O.

hagan714 · 10-06-2015, 05:46 PM

who here ever said or even entertained the idea that Jimmy was a blocker? he sets a mean pick and sets solid screens. that is it

that is why i lmao when jimmy got signed as TE and not a WR. Dude is the walking definition of a man without a position in the NFL.

The Dude · 10-06-2015, 05:51 PM

Seattle fans are already fed up with him. From what little I saw (last half of 2nd quarter) they are really missing Unger too. Not that he is exactly all world for us, but he was in that system a while and had continuity with the other players. Lions defense were getting some great sacks and pressure.
I think we got the better end of the deal in the long run.

halloween 65 · 10-06-2015, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Good question. Depends on the F.O. We're cash straped now and 30 mill. just on Brees next season. Factor in age vs. extention+ hard call. But I will say if they don't try to surrond him with great pieces(O-line-G and T in particular) we want go far + our D has to at least be good so it might be a moot point resigning him. Then you roll the dice on a franchise qb.

dizzle88 · 10-06-2015, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Exactly, they did the same thing to Lance Moore and he became a Saints legend.

It's difficult to tell, the rookies we have on D seem perfect pieces to build upon - Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux and Damian Swann

In my opinion Payton refused to Address WR and Whilst Willie Snead has been a very nice surprise so far, teams can key on Brandin Cooks because at this moment in time, the names Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Josh Hill or Ben Watson do not exactly strike fear in opponents hearts. Hopefully Spiller finally getting healthy with play a big role.

Next offseason and draft will be key in my opinion, I believe it will be the continued process of retooling for life after Brees, which I think is the 2017 season - I don't personally see us resigning a guy that would be 38 Years old unless he looks completely dominant.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-06-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

You do need a half-decent NFL passing QB to be able to recognize WR talent.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Given what we have now, I think is a bit of both. Got 5-6 rookies starting on defense, some new players in offense, overall 20-some new faces.

ChrisXVI · 10-06-2015, 08:34 PM

You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

Danno · 10-06-2015, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

Not exactly, we used him about 50/50.

But WR's are never ever used as TE's.

He is what he is, a great pass catching TE that just doesn't excel at blocking.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats. Thanks for taking Puddin' off our hands, Unger is a stud, jurys out on our #31 draft pick Anthony in my opionion so far. But all in all, yeah you got fleeced.

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Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by dizzle88 We all said it on the day of the trade. Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen. Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him. My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? dizzle88 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by dizzle88 We all said it on the day of the trade. Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen. Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him. I'm loving Willie. Watching him come out of nowhere and play as well as he does is like a breath of fresh air for the O. dizzle88 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block who here ever said or even entertained the idea that Jimmy was a blocker? he sets a mean pick and sets solid screens. that is it that is why i lmao when jimmy got signed as TE and not a WR. Dude is the walking definition of a man without a position in the NFL. foreverfan likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Seattle fans are already fed up with him. From what little I saw (last half of 2nd quarter) they are really missing Unger too. Not that he is exactly all world for us, but he was in that system a while and had continuity with the other players. Lions defense were getting some great sacks and pressure. I think we got the better end of the deal in the long run.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? Good question. Depends on the F.O. We're cash straped now and 30 mill. just on Brees next season. Factor in age vs. extention+ hard call. But I will say if they don't try to surrond him with great pieces(O-line-G and T in particular) we want go far + our D has to at least be good so it might be a moot point resigning him. Then you roll the dice on a franchise qb.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? Exactly, they did the same thing to Lance Moore and he became a Saints legend. It's difficult to tell, the rookies we have on D seem perfect pieces to build upon - Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux and Damian Swann In my opinion Payton refused to Address WR and Whilst Willie Snead has been a very nice surprise so far, teams can key on Brandin Cooks because at this moment in time, the names Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Josh Hill or Ben Watson do not exactly strike fear in opponents hearts. Hopefully Spiller finally getting healthy with play a big role. Next offseason and draft will be key in my opinion, I believe it will be the continued process of retooling for life after Brees, which I think is the 2017 season - I don't personally see us resigning a guy that would be 38 Years old unless he looks completely dominant.
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by Seahawks12th My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it. You do need a half-decent NFL passing QB to be able to recognize WR talent. So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees? Given what we have now, I think is a bit of both. Got 5-6 rookies starting on defense, some new players in offense, overall 20-some new faces.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block Originally Posted by ChrisXVI You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all. Not exactly, we used him about 50/50. But WR's are never ever used as TE's. He is what he is, a great pass catching TE that just doesn't excel at blocking.

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