Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated

Beastmode · 12-04-2015, 07:44 PM

Total different team chemistry. Main difference though is Carolina has not won squat yet so really no point in comparing them. Go win the SB then write the article. I'm not taking away their record, they have had success but still a lot of football. Way to early too compare these teams.

Mr.Riaton · 12-04-2015, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Are you listening, Payton, Junior, Cam, Loomis, Benson? One of the biggest problems with this year's team was, the "10 players in the club at 4 AM" before the season even started. This team spent far too much time partying and living out a real-life episode of "Ballers" down at Republic and the champagne room of the strip joint, and not enough time preparing or prepping. And just like last year, they believed their own hype and thought they were the bees' knees.

Read that paragraph by Harper carefully again, folks. I'd say he is definitely talking in an oblique way about Payton and the current locker room culture of the Saints. He is still friends with a lot of those guys here, and loves them.

That might be the reason Payton is taking them away from NOLA for training camp....to get them away from that culture. I don't care what they do in their personal time, as long as they win championships, I could care less. The Saints used to be an organization where FA's had a good shot to play because regardless of draft status we had a "best player play" culture. I didn't really care what players did because at the end of the day, they chose the fate of their job with the decisions they made on and off the field. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think we lack accountability amongst other problems. Whatever the case,this ship will be righted and I hope its sooner than later.

st thomas · 12-04-2015, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

That might be the reason Payton is taking them away from NOLA for training camp....to get them away from that culture. I don't care what they do in their personal time, as long as they win championships, I could care less. The Saints used to be an organization where FA's had a good shot to play because regardless of draft status we had a "best player play" culture. I didn't really care what players did because at the end of the day, they chose the fate of their job with the decisions they made on and off the field. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think we lack accountability amongst other problems. Whatever the case,this ship will be righted and I hope its sooner than later.

nicely put but they do try to get rid of the wrong attitudes and rule breakers as in galette, hope this move saves this team, we are young and making to many mistakes. that's the reason we are 4-6. I believe this nucleus will get better and better, just think the panthers got kuelkey lb just before us. the guy is special. we got to stick together.

Mr.Riaton · 12-05-2015, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

nicely put but they do try to get rid of the wrong attitudes and rule breakers as in galette, hope this move saves this team, we are young and making to many mistakes. that's the reason we are 4-6. I believe this nucleus will get better and better, just think the panthers got kuelkey lb just before us. the guy is special. we got to stick together.

I'm not just talking about players like Galette and that type of drama, I'm also including players staying out late and coming into meetings or getting on the bus/plane late. If a player stays out late,but still does all the things he needs to do as a professional and shows up on game day, its all good. But,if a playeris out late causing problems,showing up late, not performing at 100%,then that's a problem. I know players are gonna have bad games or not be in a zone,playing 100% all the time,but if its because of of field shenanigans, they should be benched for as long as it takes...I don't care who it is.

vpheughan · 12-05-2015, 09:04 AM

Like Max McGee who scored the first two touchdowns in Super Bowl history! Got plastered the night before Super Bowl I because he knew he wouldn't play and had to borrow a helmet when he was put in. As he said after the game. “When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time.”

That's why we need Johnnie Football!!! He can walk from the Quarter to the dome and play then walk back!! Bring back the old Raiders of the 60's and 70's. "Just win Baby!!" We need Junior back and get Hardy from the Cowboys. Our new motto: "We don't want players with character, we wan't Characters who can Play"

SloMotion · 12-05-2015, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Like Max McGee who scored the first two touchdowns in Super Bowl history! Got plastered the night before Super Bowl I because he knew he wouldn't play and had to borrow a helmet when he was put in. As he said after the game. “When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time.”

That's why we need Johnnie Football!!! He can walk from the Quarter to the dome and play then walk back!! Bring back the old Raiders of the 60's and 70's. "Just win Baby!!" We need Junior back and get Hardy from the Cowboys. Our new motto: "We don't want players with character, we wan't Characters who can Play"

IDK, I kinda' like that kind of player but that was then and this is now. It mighta' worked back then, but today's professional athletes have a different mindset, are too self-centered and only worried about "gettin' mine", IMO. Different era,

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RailBoss · 12-06-2015, 12:27 PM

Yeah Carolina hasn't made it the SB yet. Seen a lot of big gunslingers get knocked off on the way to the Saloon.

QBREES9 · 12-06-2015, 01:31 PM

That was great!

MaggieMayTB · 12-06-2015, 09:02 PM

Good Read.

As an outsider / visitor to NO / before & after Katrina, I resented these words, "...embraced our role as celebrities of a small market.."

He forgot history. He forgot what that building represented, the loss of life, dignity and hope. He forgot as 80,000 filled in with renewed hope focused on not what was lost but what lifted their soul; 80,000 lost their life earlier that morning in Haiti.

My numbers may be wrong; I will never forget making that observation between the death toll in Haiti and attendance at the playoff game.

For a brief moment in time, Harper was part of something larger than a team that won a Superbowl.

Yes, a good read but selfish.

Perhaps, he missed that the team was greater than a roster.

st thomas · 12-07-2015, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Yeah Carolina hasn't made it the SB yet. Seen a lot of big gunslingers get knocked off on the way to the Saloon.

like yesterdays game a mistake here and there cost this young team a huge win that could carry this team into next year.i saw fight in these here saints man, theres still a bad apple in this group that needs to be thrown out on his asse.

12-04-2015, 07:44 PM	#11
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Total different team chemistry. Main difference though is Carolina has not won squat yet so really no point in comparing them. Go win the SB then write the article. I'm not taking away their record, they have had success but still a lot of football. Way to early too compare these teams.
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12-04-2015, 08:28 PM	#12
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,266	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Originally Posted by SaintsBro Are you listening, Payton, Junior, Cam, Loomis, Benson? One of the biggest problems with this year's team was, the "10 players in the club at 4 AM" before the season even started. This team spent far too much time partying and living out a real-life episode of "Ballers" down at Republic and the champagne room of the strip joint, and not enough time preparing or prepping. And just like last year, they believed their own hype and thought they were the bees' knees. Read that paragraph by Harper carefully again, folks. I'd say he is definitely talking in an oblique way about Payton and the current locker room culture of the Saints. He is still friends with a lot of those guys here, and loves them. That might be the reason Payton is taking them away from NOLA for training camp....to get them away from that culture. I don't care what they do in their personal time, as long as they win championships, I could care less. The Saints used to be an organization where FA's had a good shot to play because regardless of draft status we had a "best player play" culture. I didn't really care what players did because at the end of the day, they chose the fate of their job with the decisions they made on and off the field. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think we lack accountability amongst other problems. Whatever the case,this ship will be righted and I hope its sooner than later. st thomas likes this.

12-04-2015, 10:34 PM	#13
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton That might be the reason Payton is taking them away from NOLA for training camp....to get them away from that culture. I don't care what they do in their personal time, as long as they win championships, I could care less. The Saints used to be an organization where FA's had a good shot to play because regardless of draft status we had a "best player play" culture. I didn't really care what players did because at the end of the day, they chose the fate of their job with the decisions they made on and off the field. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think we lack accountability amongst other problems. Whatever the case,this ship will be righted and I hope its sooner than later. nicely put but they do try to get rid of the wrong attitudes and rule breakers as in galette, hope this move saves this team, we are young and making to many mistakes. that's the reason we are 4-6. I believe this nucleus will get better and better, just think the panthers got kuelkey lb just before us. the guy is special. we got to stick together. RailBoss and Mr.Riaton like this.

12-05-2015, 07:19 AM	#14
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,266	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Originally Posted by st thomas nicely put but they do try to get rid of the wrong attitudes and rule breakers as in galette, hope this move saves this team, we are young and making to many mistakes. that's the reason we are 4-6. I believe this nucleus will get better and better, just think the panthers got kuelkey lb just before us. the guy is special. we got to stick together. I'm not just talking about players like Galette and that type of drama, I'm also including players staying out late and coming into meetings or getting on the bus/plane late. If a player stays out late,but still does all the things he needs to do as a professional and shows up on game day, its all good. But,if a playeris out late causing problems,showing up late, not performing at 100%,then that's a problem. I know players are gonna have bad games or not be in a zone,playing 100% all the time,but if its because of of field shenanigans, they should be benched for as long as it takes...I don't care who it is. st thomas likes this.

12-05-2015, 09:04 AM	#15
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,534	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Like Max McGee who scored the first two touchdowns in Super Bowl history! Got plastered the night before Super Bowl I because he knew he wouldn't play and had to borrow a helmet when he was put in. As he said after the game. “When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time.” That's why we need Johnnie Football!!! He can walk from the Quarter to the dome and play then walk back!! Bring back the old Raiders of the 60's and 70's. "Just win Baby!!" We need Junior back and get Hardy from the Cowboys. Our new motto: "We don't want players with character, we wan't Characters who can Play"
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12-05-2015, 09:09 AM	#16
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Originally Posted by vpheughan Like Max McGee who scored the first two touchdowns in Super Bowl history! Got plastered the night before Super Bowl I because he knew he wouldn't play and had to borrow a helmet when he was put in. As he said after the game. “When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time.” That's why we need Johnnie Football!!! He can walk from the Quarter to the dome and play then walk back!! Bring back the old Raiders of the 60's and 70's. "Just win Baby!!" We need Junior back and get Hardy from the Cowboys. Our new motto: "We don't want players with character, we wan't Characters who can Play" IDK, I kinda' like that kind of player but that was then and this is now. It mighta' worked back then, but today's professional athletes have a different mindset, are too self-centered and only worried about "gettin' mine", IMO. Different era, .

12-06-2015, 12:27 PM	#17
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Yeah Carolina hasn't made it the SB yet. Seen a lot of big gunslingers get knocked off on the way to the Saloon. Danno, st thomas and K Major like this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated That was great!

12-06-2015, 09:02 PM	#19
MaggieMayTB Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Franklin, Wisconsin (knee deep in melted cheese sauce) Posts: 615 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Good Read. As an outsider / visitor to NO / before & after Katrina, I resented these words, "...embraced our role as celebrities of a small market.." He forgot history. He forgot what that building represented, the loss of life, dignity and hope. He forgot as 80,000 filled in with renewed hope focused on not what was lost but what lifted their soul; 80,000 lost their life earlier that morning in Haiti. My numbers may be wrong; I will never forget making that observation between the death toll in Haiti and attendance at the playoff game. For a brief moment in time, Harper was part of something larger than a team that won a Superbowl. Yes, a good read but selfish. Perhaps, he missed that the team was greater than a roster. SloMotion likes this.
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12-07-2015, 09:12 AM	#20
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Roman Harper: Why We’re Undefeated Originally Posted by RailBoss Yeah Carolina hasn't made it the SB yet. Seen a lot of big gunslingers get knocked off on the way to the Saloon. like yesterdays game a mistake here and there cost this young team a huge win that could carry this team into next year.i saw fight in these here saints man, theres still a bad apple in this group that needs to be thrown out on his asse. RailBoss likes this.

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