Black Monday / Sunday

burningmetal · 01-04-2016, 01:47 AM

Pagano has seriously hurt his reputation. That team has been stuck in neutral for a while, and as soon as Luck gets hurt, they totally sucked. And Luck is not elite, yet. He is a turnover machine. So to see that team take that kind of dive without a QB who was already hot and cold... Not good.

But worse then the record is the fact that he's a defensive guy, and he never put together a good defense in Indy. I'm not sure he ever had a decent one. He was just lucky to coach in a horrific division.

I don't see anyone that has been cut loose, so far, that interests me as a coordinator or HC, if Payton leaves. I agree with the OP about maybe bringing in Tomsula to coach the defensive line, but that's about it. I also agree that if Payton stays it's unlikely he'll replace Bill Johnson. Bill and Joe Vitt are apparently invincible.

Crusader · 01-04-2016, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

if sp did leave i wouldt mind coghlin

I really like Coughlin and he has been great for the Giants. If SP leaves however I would like another young coach with a lot of energy. I don't know if Coughlin can bring that.

halloween 65 · 01-04-2016, 06:01 AM

Pettine as DC would be good as long as he could pick his staff.

SmashMouth · 01-04-2016, 10:24 AM

Chip Kelly reaches out to the 49ers | ProFootballTalk

K Major · 01-04-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Chip Kelly reaches out to the 49ers | ProFootballTalk

Interesting however I think Chip is a long shot to get a job in San Fran as HC.

SmashMouth · 01-04-2016, 12:42 PM

Titans fire G.M. Ruston Webster | ProFootballTalk

Mr.Riaton · 01-04-2016, 01:22 PM

Man, Pettine has an impressive resume'(LB and DL coach for that stout Ravens D stood out to me). I'd love for this guy to be our next DC. Id like to still keep Allen as an assistant... he seems to know how to relate to the players and is detail oriented. If we want to have a good D,it starts with a good DC. We have talent,and I think this guy would make some grown a$$ men out of our players.

WhoDat!656 · 01-04-2016, 02:26 PM

Coughlin out in New York

SmashMouth · 01-04-2016, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Coughlin out in New York

Report: Tom Coughlin tells staff he’s out | ProFootballTalk

K Major · 01-04-2016, 02:57 PM

I still think Tom Coughlin is a good coach.

01-04-2016, 01:47 AM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Pagano has seriously hurt his reputation. That team has been stuck in neutral for a while, and as soon as Luck gets hurt, they totally sucked. And Luck is not elite, yet. He is a turnover machine. So to see that team take that kind of dive without a QB who was already hot and cold... Not good. But worse then the record is the fact that he's a defensive guy, and he never put together a good defense in Indy. I'm not sure he ever had a decent one. He was just lucky to coach in a horrific division. I don't see anyone that has been cut loose, so far, that interests me as a coordinator or HC, if Payton leaves. I agree with the OP about maybe bringing in Tomsula to coach the defensive line, but that's about it. I also agree that if Payton stays it's unlikely he'll replace Bill Johnson. Bill and Joe Vitt are apparently invincible.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-04-2016, 03:33 AM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by spkb25 if sp did leave i wouldt mind coghlin I really like Coughlin and he has been great for the Giants. If SP leaves however I would like another young coach with a lot of energy. I don't know if Coughlin can bring that.

01-04-2016, 06:01 AM	#13
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Pettine as DC would be good as long as he could pick his staff. Mr.Riaton likes this.

01-04-2016, 10:24 AM	#14
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,210 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Chip Kelly reaches out to the 49ers \| ProFootballTalk

01-04-2016, 10:36 AM	#15
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Originally Posted by SmashMouth Chip Kelly reaches out to the 49ers \| ProFootballTalk Interesting however I think Chip is a long shot to get a job in San Fran as HC.

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01-04-2016, 01:22 PM	#17
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Man, Pettine has an impressive resume'(LB and DL coach for that stout Ravens D stood out to me). I'd love for this guy to be our next DC. Id like to still keep Allen as an assistant... he seems to know how to relate to the players and is detail oriented. If we want to have a good D,it starts with a good DC. We have talent,and I think this guy would make some grown a$$ men out of our players.

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01-04-2016, 02:32 PM	#19
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,210 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Black Monday / Sunday Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Coughlin out in New York Report: Tom Coughlin tells staff he’s out \| ProFootballTalk

01-04-2016, 02:57 PM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday / Sunday I still think Tom Coughlin is a good coach.

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