Johnny "Be Gone"

SmashMouth · 02-05-2016, 12:07 PM

Johnny Manziel’s agent dumps him | ProFootballTalk
Johnny Manziel’s father fears for his son, tried to get him into rehab | ProFootballTalk
Tyrann Mathieu offers his help, encouragement to Johnny Manziel | ProFootballTalk

Halo · 02-05-2016, 12:36 PM

Thus far a waste as many predicated. That's why the Browns took him first pick!

K Major · 02-05-2016, 12:39 PM

Get the kid some help before it's too late.

He has bigger problems than football.

dam1953 · 02-05-2016, 01:00 PM

You know it's bad when your agent dumps you.

saintfan · 02-05-2016, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Get the kid some help before it's too late.

He has bigger problems than football.

Man that's right. There's a train wreck a-comin' with this kid. Up to now it's just been fender-benders.

RaginCajun83 · 02-05-2016, 02:51 PM

he needs to go home, lay low for a year and then try to come back as a humbled back up somewhere next year

SloMotion · 02-05-2016, 03:31 PM

IDK what the connection would be between Mathieu and Manziel, ie former teammates, et ... but there's a guy who could help Johnny get his head on straight, IMO ... honey badger been through it somewhat & just don't care,

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dam1953 · 02-05-2016, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

IDK what the connection would be between Mathieu and Manziel, ie former teammates, et ... but there's a guy who could help Johnny get his head on straight, IMO ... honey badger been through it somewhat & just don't care, .

The difference is that Mathieu had/has some discipline in his life. Even though Les can be a frustrating SOB, it appears that he does have control of his team. Doesn't matter who you are, you break the rules and your gone. This taught Mathieu a very valuable lesson. That lesson was drilled in further by Patrick Peterson, who lobbied AZ to draft him and volunteered to act as his big brother. AZ also had some pretty stiff contract language. From what I've read Mathieu has to report when and where he goes. Talk about a short leash.

Manziel, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have ever had an authority figure discipline him. Just look at his behavior at A&M and the night he was drafted. The boy is a head case. Can't say Les would have tolerated Manziel's behavior the way A&M did. His high school, college and parents can all share the blame for creating the monster that "was" Johnny Football. Now, someone has to figure out how to control the monster before it kills.

SmashMouth · 02-05-2016, 11:51 PM

Judge signs protective order keeping Manziel away from ex-girlfriend | ProFootballTalk
Dallas Police launch criminal investigation into Manziel incident | ProFootballTalk

QBREES9 · 02-05-2016, 11:58 PM

Very sad. What a great talent he had. I feel sorry for his Mom and Dad. Get him some Help. Or all the Help he needs.

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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Johnny "Be Gone" he needs to go home, lay low for a year and then try to come back as a humbled back up somewhere next year SloMotion likes this.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Johnny "Be Gone" IDK what the connection would be between Mathieu and Manziel, ie former teammates, et ... but there's a guy who could help Johnny get his head on straight, IMO ... honey badger been through it somewhat & just don't care, . dam1953 likes this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Johnny "Be Gone" Originally Posted by SloMotion IDK what the connection would be between Mathieu and Manziel, ie former teammates, et ... but there's a guy who could help Johnny get his head on straight, IMO ... honey badger been through it somewhat & just don't care, . The difference is that Mathieu had/has some discipline in his life. Even though Les can be a frustrating SOB, it appears that he does have control of his team. Doesn't matter who you are, you break the rules and your gone. This taught Mathieu a very valuable lesson. That lesson was drilled in further by Patrick Peterson, who lobbied AZ to draft him and volunteered to act as his big brother. AZ also had some pretty stiff contract language. From what I've read Mathieu has to report when and where he goes. Talk about a short leash. Manziel, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have ever had an authority figure discipline him. Just look at his behavior at A&M and the night he was drafted. The boy is a head case. Can't say Les would have tolerated Manziel's behavior the way A&M did. His high school, college and parents can all share the blame for creating the monster that "was" Johnny Football. Now, someone has to figure out how to control the monster before it kills. saintfan, SmashMouth, OldMaid and 1 others like this.
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Johnny "Be Gone" Very sad. What a great talent he had. I feel sorry for his Mom and Dad. Get him some Help. Or all the Help he needs.