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All of this crap that has be spewed on this board on Cam is a bunch of crap.

It seems that people are getting off on...
telling this board how they would have handled losing the Superbowl or the “correct/approved” way to lose the Superbowl. Many of you are assuming that you are a better person than Cam Newton.

Personally I don't care how he handled this.
Since when is it required that you have to think like the majority?
Since when is it required that you can't publicly display human emotions?
When did the NFL become the US Army?

Bottom Line...
He lost. LOL. He can cry all day long and I can laugh about it. That’s it.

This has become a media show against Cam.
Posting stuff about how wrong I think this is doesn't make me a better person. I don't get off on it.
Actually I'm just enjoying the show. LOL.

I respect Cam for going outside of the box
and taking his route and displaying his personal emotions and true feelings.
This is part of what makes him so special...
love it or hate it.

REMEMBER THIS....
Every one of us has something in our life that we would love to take back
but it wasn’t done in front of 300 million people
and the media certainly didn't cover it.

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Personally I don't see a problem calling someone a jerk if they continue to act like a jerk over and over again.

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LOL... So is he a new and improved jerk?

I guess it depends on who defines jerk or who taught you what a jerk is.
Some people may think you are a jerk... yet you may not think you are a jerk.

I know some people think I'm a jerk but many others love me for being that jerk.
Certainly nobody on this board would accuse me of that. :)

Since when is it required that you have to think like the majority?

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Ugh... why are we still going over this? Better yet, why would you want to defend him? Better still, why would you want to defend him on a Saints message board? I don't understand this perceived need amongst Saints fans to come to the aid of a guy who plays for a division rival.

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LOL... I was bored... :dunce:

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Cam, is who he is.

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Cam is a freaking genius. Here it is going on a week since the Superbowl, and everyone is still talking about the guy who lost and not the team that won the game, and put on one of the best defensive performances in recent memory.

The only person better at keeping themselves in the spotlight when they don't win something is Kanye.

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No one said it was required.

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He's Steve Martin?

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Oddly... that doesn't always work for everybody. Most of it says in the locker room and is never seen.
Don't think it doesn't exist on every team.

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We preach good sportsmanship. To our kids. From the moment they're old enough to play (and with good parents even before). Cam embodies precisely the opposite.

Sure, he is who he is. He also isn't who he isn't. For example, he's not a NFL passer. Without his run game he melted, as pretty much anyone here already knew and Wade Phillips so gloriously exposed. He melted, very publicly. That's his problem.

Anyone making excuses for that kind of behavior is fooling themselves maybe, but not me. I was brought up to respect people, and few things are more disrespectful than poor sportsmanship.

Next time Newton whines about respect, somebody should remind him you have to give to receive. The bigger they are, (gloriously) the harder they fall.

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Very well said Saintfan. ( We preach good sportsmanship. To our kids. From the moment they're old enough to play (and with good parents even before). Cam embodies precisely the opposite.)

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There is NO defending this jerk.

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Are you trying to say this is his daddy's fault? :rolleyes: I'm confuse here. :confused:

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His father is Cecil Newton, Sr.

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NSFW

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Damn off-season is here were really stretching for material to talk about.
At the end of the day the Carolina QB goes home to his million plus home and for him it's just another day at the Office.
However the Carolina QB put up a major smoke screen at the press conference after the game so that no one asked why he ran away from the fumble.
But Tuesday the Carolina QB did finally come up with this contorted excuse.

"I didn’t dive on one fumble because the way my leg was (positioned)," Newton told reporters in Charlotte on Tuesday. "It could have been contorted in a way. You say my effort? I didn’t dive down. I fumbled - that’s fine. That’s fine. We didn’t lose the game because of that fumble.”

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The only problem I have with talking about Cam, is that it's seemingly all that's going on right now. But I think most of what has been said is valid.

Those who defend him are consistently missing the point. It's not about how he feels. I'm not going to tell anyone how to feel about anything. It's about how you display those emotions publicly. If you need to vent privately with people you trust, by all means do so. But someone in his situation is in a position of privilege. You're held to that higher standard for good reason. And for all you might wanna say about how everyone gets frustrated, we have NEVER seen that kind of behavior after a superbowl loss before. So why is that?

Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes with other players, but you know what? Even if that is the case, at least they are handling it PRIVATELY as they should. Let's not act like Cam is the first person to be criticized either. We've been hearing about Johnny Manziel non stop for the last two years, and we talk about countless other prima donna's.

Sure we do things we regret. I'm not here to tell anyone that I'm perfect. I do my best to right my wrongs, and I hear about it when I do something wrong, just like anyone else. But does it look to you like Cam regrets anything he did? Did you hear what he had to say the other day about his actions? He's convinced he's justified. And this, as we all know, is not his first go around of publicly embarrassing himself. When there's a pattern AND a refusal to acknowledge it, much less change it, you get the kind of criticism he is getting.

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The Cam debate has jumped the shark, IMO. It is what it is. This is 'Merica ... you're free to be a jerk in public just as much as you are free to be called out on it, #shrug. No denying Cam's arrogance & "pride goeth before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall, Proverbs 16:18, #shrug ... and we as a country llloooovvve watching a good fall, :lol:.

I could care less how the guy felt at the moment, or since. He's a million-dollar baby that puts himself on a pedestal and then cracks under the first sign of adversity, #smh. It's about his behavior and all this other crap being interjected into the argument is just flotsam & jetsam. The guy just sets a poor example, IMO, #shrug. Isn't public-speaking a required course anymore? :rolleyes:.

Football is no longer a gladiator sport. They don't practice in pads, it's all about "feelings", we got "individual" stars now, showboating, much like professional wrestling, :rolleyes:. I can honestly say I'm losing interest, #shrug.

Whatever, I'm getting ready for fishing season ... it's coming early this year, :).

No wonder you can't get anyone to go camping with ya', Forever, ;).

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WTF.... Cam might go camping with me...

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I've been very critical of Cam, but like burningmetal eluded to, you can't "judge" (and I use this word loosely) someone by how they feel. But when you see how someone acts in a negative situation, whether positively or negatively, you get some insight into that person''s character. He could've used the loss to show kids and even adults how to handle adversity, IF he were truly interested in being a role model. Just goes to show that all the smiling and handing out balls to kids and signing autographs for kids in wheelchairs is really just a facade, and not a genuine part of his character.

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Damn... you sign like Hillary Clinton trying to bash Donald Trump. :hallucinate:

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I think Cam didnt do himself any favors by acting like that, but I dont think what he did was over the top. I remember Payton Manning walking of the field after we won the SB without giving postgame hand shakes. How is that any better? IMO its worse and I dont remember all this bashing on Manning. If you wanna bash him because you just dont like him for whatever reason, then thats your right. But Cmon guys, lets get real. You want to bring up the 'good sportsman for the children' argument? I understand your point and agree, but how many 'children' have you seen stick around to watch a post game interview? And if they're old enough to be interested in watching it, I doubt how a player lost his cool is gonna totally change their perspective on how they should handle a loss. There are worse things these days these kids are exposed to than that. And if its not the pro players handling a loss poorly, theres plenty of pro coaches that do it to. How many times have we seen a coach go off the deep end after a loss and we laugh about it? I know kids look up to players more than coaches, but it still shows poor sportsmanship, right? Thats what its all about, right?

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Or Donald Trump bashing hillary, or Cruz bashing Sanders... whatever. My point is that it's easy to show good behavior when things are going well. Not so easy (for all of us) when things aren't going your way. The strong ones rise above it. And yes, I'll use Russel Wilson as an example of that.

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You forgot Hillary lying about Bernie too.

But who defines good? Should he be fined by the Goodell? GTFOOH. :o

Would this straighten this out? :)

Cam is a bit like Bernie and Trump... he says what's on his mind and doesn't sugar coat it with political correctness.


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There's so much out there among the candidates that I can't keep up! [emoji1]
What's "good" for some may not be for others. It depends on what you use for your moral compass. I guess Cam and I just don't use the same compass.

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For me, personally, I'm not worried about the role model part (though he is a poor role model). It's a respect thing. Frankly I never noticed that Peyton didn't shake hands after the super bowl, because that's not nearly as visible as walking out of a room when you are being asked questions. When I heard about it later, I thought it was petty on his part. But Peyton doesn't draw the kind of attention to himself as Cam does. Peyton does a lot of corny commercials, whereas Cam is a completely polarizing figure. He's got a long history of folding under pressure and scrutiny.

I don't mind the coaches tirades near as much. Usually they are just telling it like it is. That's better than just avoiding the issue. Sometimes reporters ask dumb questions. I have no problem with a player or coach telling the reporter why their question is dumb. When they walk out, they look like brats.

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I like when people aren't politically correct... As long as what's coming out of their mouth isn't complete garbage. Speaking your mind doesn't mean you're necessarily right. I know that applies to all people, but there are some things that just stand out as being flat out wrong. And on the subject of Cam, it's less about what he says and more about what he does.

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You can't forget what you are...

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And what is he? So we're saying he's like this because he's ghetto and that makes it ok? I'm not interested in where anyone is from. You are what you are, just as you implied, and if what you are is a self centered, ego- maniacal child, then you should expect not to be well received. I have no ill will towards him, despite the fact that I don't like him. I hope for his sake that he grows up.

There are plenty of people who have come from much worse places than he did, who managed to grow up. He is who he is, not because of where he came from, but because of who he has chosen to be. He could do better if he wanted to. Wherever the heck he came from is not a valid excuse in my book.

I like you, FF, but this is one subject I couldn't disagree more on.

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I know there are times at work when a co-worker or even my boss pisses me off to the point where I have to walk away before I say or do something Im gonna regret. Maybe he did the same. I think you make good points, and im not defending Cam per se, He is what he is, but despite how much better of a person Payton is, walking of the field in a pouting manner because he just lost the game shows the same kind of attitude. At least Cam shook Paytons hand afterwards.

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I know where you're coming from on the walking away from someone before saying anything you'll regret. I've both walked away, and said things I regret. I've learned along the way. I just see this as a different situation, where he isn't arguing with someone, he's being asked questions and couldn't manage to get through it. I didn't hear a question that sounded like an attack or anything. But again, it's also a cumulative thing with Cam. So many instances to draw from.

I don't disagree about Peyton. For the record, I am not a fan of Peyton or Eli. They tend to say the right things in their press conferences, but on the field they seem to always blame their mistakes on someone else. They throw an interception and immediately you see them demonstratively pointing at a certain player and telling him he should have done this or that. I'm sure there are times when they're right, but it's hard to believe that every pick is someone else's fault.

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49 other WBs have lost Super Bowls; how many of them conducted their post-game interview like Cam did?

I get that he was upset! No one expected him to be rainbows and puppy dogs about it, but Cam is a grown man and he reacted like a spoiled child.

He should follow Leonard's Mom's advice:

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This situation reminds me of a couple dates where I wish I woulda fapped it before going out. That release of emotion clears your mind, calms you down, and lets you think about other things. Cam should have (mentally/emotionally) fapped with somebody before he went to his interview.

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I hate me some Cam Newton.. His stupid towel over the head and everything...

But I'm a little conflicted on how I feel with this one. Definite poor sport to not recognize and respect, and to outright discount, the people that just beat you. That's just super egotistical, one of the highest forms of sportsman disrespect, and a loser mentality.

But, as a super fierce competitive person myself, I can understand emotions taking over. We saw this guys massively big head POP on tv, then he had to parade his malformed, deflated, disfigured head into a press conference where he had to explain, "why aren't you good enough? And why aren't you as good as you are supposed to be? And You're Cam Newton, how in the world could somebody beat you?" That's really tough.

I'm not defending the actions, but I do understand them, and won't judge him. Sure it's easy to say what should be done in that situation and what we would have done, but we really have no idea what it's like to think like an already huge egoed, newly crowned NFL MVP Cam Newton, and have the biggest disappointment of our life just happen 10 minutes ago, then have one of the guys that beat you's answer to how they beat you blasting in your ear. Man, that sucks.

All I'm saying is, let's not judge because we can't understand his position.

I'm also really curious to see if/how he grows from this.

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Good post!

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The essence of what you're saying is true. But it also speaks to the very point... He IS egotistical at this point. If he weren't, he might have handled it better. But he is, and he didn't. I don't want to know how it feels to be that full of myself and then lose. I don't like losing, and I don't like to gloat. He's saying "look at me" all year with his actions, and telling anyone who will listen that all his doubters fueled him, blah blah. When you do that you better have some answers when you fall flat on your face. That's all I'm saying.

We're all imperfect, and we all have to learn. This dude comes across as disingenuous, and pretentious. He talks and talks, and talks some more. Everything is sunshine and flowers, and then he completely changes. Most people come by their flaws a bit more honestly.

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You mean this Snoop Dogg? Burger King hot dog spokesperson, Snoop Dogg? Twitter-fight-with-Iggy Azalea, Snoop Dogg? (remember when rappers use to settle their beefs with guns & stuff? Now it's Twitter battles, :lol:) Yeah, he's real "ghetto", :lol: ... "sell-out" is more like it, :lol:. "Old pot-head rappers never die, they just wind up selling pork & pork byproducts for the man", :lol:.

And don't be fooled, Burger King ain't grilling those dogs, at least the ones by me ... no grill marks and they microwave 'em, who they kidding? I know what a microwaved dog tastes like, :neutral:. I was in there raising holy hell back when they were test marketing those, just saying, :lol:.