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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal The ignorance drips from your fingertips. No evidence on O.J? Yeah... Just a 911 recording of Nicole Simpson saying that her husband was trying to kill her. Blood stained shoe prints that matched a pair of ...

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Old 08-30-2016, 03:59 PM   #1
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The ignorance drips from your fingertips.


No evidence on O.J? Yeah... Just a 911 recording of Nicole Simpson saying that her husband was trying to kill her. Blood stained shoe prints that matched a pair of his. Oh, and that little part where he was speeding from the cops who had "no evidence", apparently. Yeah he didn't have a guilty conscience, and justice was totally served. Am I getting through to you yet? I bet not, so let's continue.

I didn't say there weren't ANY corrupt cops. I made a point of that. But you only have these couple of videos, and then a whole boat load of of stories of cops committing "murder". You have gang violence going on all the time, and you don't want to do anything about that, but if a cop kills someone who is a known criminal, you take the side of the criminal, because he's black?

I bet you never heard of Lavoy Finicum. Why don't you watch this and tell me if white people don't get targeted. This man did nothing wrong and was stalked by police for YEARS. It was highly likely a government sanctioned strike, because this man was ACTUALLY standing up for his rights, unlike some people who just sit down.



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The 911 call was not pertaining to the event of her murder and the blood found on shoes were argued to be transferred possible Mark Fuhrman but I am not hereto argue for or against O.J. my reference about him only was used to PROVE a point

How do you know how I feel about gang violence? I never brought up gang violence. If you should know I am against ANY violence. Just because black members in a gang kill another black person do that justify a law official killing a man? All this evidence which I am showing you is recent not years ago. A NYPD Captain recently persecuted one of his officers " You need to arrest more blacks" Really! do you have them saying arrest more whites? No. Here is proof:

You absolutely right I never heard of Lavoy Finicum. I just got home and will research this, hopefully its something pertaining to this subject. I never said white people don't get targeted, I am saying a lot more blacks are being targeted than whites. right in our backyard, in Baton Rouge, more recent I must say
and this one in the city of West Monroe, La which I reside in killed a Hispanic man
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Old 08-30-2016, 12:00 PM   #2
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All you that see how offensive it is that he don't stand for the anthem, just think about all those black families that lost their loves ones to brutal killing by police officers and George Zimmerman for being found innocent for Trayvon Martin death. Yes close your eyes or justify the lost of those lives. If you notice not one black person is burning a jersey or speaking out publicly. Americans black & white gave their lives in order for us to have freedom of protest and yes standing for the anthem is a sign of respect to our fallen heroes but sitting to protest is Kap freedom to protest. PEOPLE be careful how you attack Kap before this turnout very huge and blacks come to his defense
I understand what you are saying and I believe that we need to unify against this situation.

However, The stars and stripes represents being an American. And "our flag" doesn't represent bad press. The Flag should draw our country together....not divide us. Find a different way to express your displeasure or get the hell out of my country.
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Colin Kapernick is as dumb as a box of rocks, and so is the media that is driving this.

First of all, America has been conflicted about race since DAY ONE -- Thomas Jefferson knew this, if anybody has actually taken the time and cracked a book and read his words, you would know that he knew and saw the issues and problems of race in America, way back then -- it already made him uncomfortable... And he predicted it would be a problem going forward, that would have to get better eventually.... In fact there were PLENTY of people who saw the contradictions and problems with race in this country, a long history of that, going way WAY back to the time of the founding of the country. It's not like nobody has ever thought of this stuff, before Kaepernick pulled his stunt. He's gonna be sitting his butt down there by the Gatorade for a d--n long time.

The national anthem itself -- what do the frigging lyrics say. Does anybody even care? The whole thing is A QUESTION. Does the star spangled banner yet wave? Over the land of the free and the home of the brave? (although we in the terrace tend to yell "and the home...of the....Saaiinnntss!!!!!" as the last line).

That's why the guy and his "protest" is as dumb as a bunch of rocks. His so-called "protest" is already BUILT INTO the national anthem. The lyrics are a QUESTION. Does the flag still stand for those things? Do we as a nation, live up to the promise and potential? Are we worthy? Could we do better? Of COURSE. That's what THE ANTHEM IS FOR. We ask the question of ourselves every time we sing it. I can guarantee you, no other country on earth, has an anthem that is asking a QUESTION like that....are we free? Are we still the land of the free, home of the brave?

Anyway, off my soap box. It's also a lousy protest, in terms of strategy. I mean, think like this: you stage a sit-in at a Woolworth's lunch counter, to force them to integrate -- there is an achievable objective there. Fight your draft status, to protest a larger war -- again, there is an achievable objective there. This stunt is pointless as civil rights protest, because there is no actual achievable resolution that could possibly end it. It's not really a tactical maneuver at all -- it's just juvenile pouting.
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Old 08-29-2016, 07:07 PM   #4
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As a former serviceman from a whole family were my father served and both grandfathers served. I don't agree with him not standing but that's his right as an american to express himself however wrong it maybe. Radical groups like the klan and black panthers speak ignorantly and its wrong but thats their right as an american to do so as long as its not harming people. When it crosses to hurting people than its a problem. I just tune out ignorant people instead of being hurt by things people say that i don't agree with.
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Next stop the CFL for Mr. Disrespect pack your bags.
Hard to believe this kid grew up hard knocks.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:16 PM   #6
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60 some years ago, Jackie Robertson stood firm on a ball field and put his hand on his heart during the anthem, knowing for the next few hours that the US flag would be darn near his only ally in the face of constant mockery and discrimination while simply playing a game. I'm sure each night that Jackie, despite the ongoing bigotry, hoped and dreamed that the principles of equality would in time win out, so that we as a country could get to a point where an athlete is judged by his ability and his grace, not by his race or creed.

At a sporting event, observing the flag is not an act of patriotic servitude. It is an act of recognition for all those that came before you and showed tremendous character and defied the odds for our common benefit. They came from all walks of life and stood for independence. Thus, you can stand for the fellow spectators and players who adhere to one common principle that we are still trying to get better at - that all men are created equal and are equally deserving of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Many fellow Americans, myself among them, have definitive grievances about the corrupt direction of this country and the irreparable harm that is being done to our families and communities, in so many areas. For persons with opened eyes who are observing the problems that Colin cited, it isn't supposed to be easy to stand for your country and observe the flag and feel like it's totally the right thing to be doing. It requires both class and reflection.

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South Carolina high school bans American flags from football game - CBSSports.com

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Chris Jackson for LSU and later NBA use to do it I believe. I served 20 years in the military and do not care.
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Brees says American flag is “sacred,” speaks out against Kapernick’s method of protest | ProFootballTalk
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Jerry Rice says “All lives matter,” tells Kap “don’t disrespect the flag” | ProFootballTalk
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