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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by blackangold No the cops don't have that right, black, white or brown it doesn't matter. However, it's important to understand the LEO's position, their job is harder and more stressful than anything you can imagine. In those ...
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SHOOTING AT SOMEONE 8x IS A MISTAKE? PEOPLE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE IS A JOKE? ![]()
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You clearly have your mind closed to any factual evidence on the broad problem. I stated that there are racist police officers just as there are racists in every community. You should actually watch the videos and try to debate with facts, outside of that your opinion is not intelligently based, however don't feel the need to get defensive because your mind won't be open at that point.![]()
BLM stands for nothing, they support no specific policy change and cling on to the political side that has supported racism and poverty for blacks since the civil war. Slavery still exists today, unfortunately it's minorities enslaved by liberal policies because we fail to educate ourselves... |
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5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks
BY: AARON BANDLER JULY 7, 2016 Here are five key statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks. 1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to Mac Donald in a speech at Hillsdale College. Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties. "Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald. MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population. "The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods." 2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers. "If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said Mac Donald in her Hillsdale speech. 3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture: The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths. In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire. Mac Donald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them." 4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene. 5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person. Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what Mac Donald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016. Anti-police rhetoric has deadly consequences. |
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Those studies about zero probability of a black man being shot or killed by officer are bogus. Two police shootings, two videos, two deaths - CNN.com 2 days apart. Really! Protest don't matter if pertaining toward blacks or miniorities. THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi
I am sorry you feel that way, perhaps some day you'll realize that studies and factual data is the best way to base your opinion rather than snippets of time or subjective selection of information.![]()
It's a true shame, too many people (you included) are focused on the wrong thing. What about the thousands of blacks shot by blacks this year alone? Since 2008 more blacks have been murdered in Chicago than US deaths during the Iraq war, all black on black violence. Where is the outrage? Where is the outrage on liberal policies that encourage this environment? |
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Been proven by the link I just displayed but I am the closed mine one![]()
THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER |
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What was proven?![]()
I agree he should be prosecuted. Then what? You didn't answer any of my previous questions. |
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what was proven that zero probability that a officer will murder a black man![]()
Then what, you ask, more Americans can feel like that their some sense of hope in our judicial process. This victim and other families come together in their communities and start the process of building a bridge to unite citizens with the police, to work together against crime THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER |
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where is his evidence? If he was to say Obama was a great president ALL of you conservatives will treat him like he had the plague, laughing so hard that you quick to listen to RHETORIC instead of doing your own homework. Hey, that's your RIGHT. Makes me wonder why AARON BANDLER'S followers even watch football. Don't they know 68% African-American play in the NFL BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths) •Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting •37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population •Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015 •Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31. THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER |
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Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss
Originally Posted by nola_swammi
Pssst, your racism is showing![]()
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