Roger Goodell - Unchecked Power
 

Too much blood has been spilled in this country for individual civil rights, including due process for this to continue...

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While i agree the players were stupid enough to gove it to him. Mostly because the majority are like children with money and needed their paycheck and couldnt hold out

I do think thete could be a long labour holdout come the next cba

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I've never wanted to have a lockout, for obvious reasons, and I think the amount of bickering that goes on between millionaires and billionaires is pretty pathetic.

But what Roger is doing and has threatened to do at other times goes beyond money. It's threatening to destroy the game. With that in mind, I would support the players in a lockout this time around, if that's what it takes.

I'm sick of hearing people say "oh the game will survive". Maybe. But what kind of game will it be? I already enjoy football WAY less than I did 10 or 15 years ago. All the wussification in the last decade really made it a teeth grinding event to try to watch defenses get flagged for nearly every good play. It's only gotten worse with all the suspensions and fines over innocuous matters.

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Id always support the players in a lockout. Im pro union (i know they are not as popular over there as here. But so many of your unions seem to have crime links etc that doesnt/didn't happen here). The players should be making the money not the owners imo.

Anyway something needs done and a season with little or even no football might cost the owners enough that they fire him

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Well unless the players want to start buying teams, they can't make all the money. Owners make gross amounts of money and they want to hog it all, but they made the huge investment to be able to reap those rewards. They aren't, generally speaking, the most generous of people for sure. But that's how it goes.

The players play, and they are the product, but I don't think they are hurting to the point where they need to demand more and more money. In the regular world, you make whatever your boss offers, and we have a minimum wage in place. The NFL is it's own entity and only owes what percentage it has signed off on to pay. But of course as the league makes more money players feel entitled to it because they are, as I said, the product.

But where else in the world do you automatically get a certain percentage of what the company you work for makes? Unless you have a piece of ownership you aren't entitled to anything that wasn't previously agreed upon. That's my problem with the union. Are you being taken care of? If the answer is yes, it just becomes a greed war on both sides, and it's ugly.

But I would support them in this case, specifically about these horrible rules and restrictions. And Goodell has to have his power limited. Right now he is an absolute dictator.

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Goodell has nothing to do with anything.
He does what the owners tell him to

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It's just one witch hunt after another. Now it's Ninkovich. It's a Goodell thing.

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As much as i cant stand him if Ninkovich has taken something, even a over the counter supplement that contains a band substance its his own fault and i have no sympathy. Players have it drummed into them to take nothing bot prescribed by the team. Its the same in all sports.

I cant stand the man,the rubbish forcing players to speak after the ridiculous al Jazeera report and suspending players after they have a case the law says doesnt need andwered but Goodell says it does

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Right, because Tom Benson instructed Roger to blow up the Saints seasin in 2012 with one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in sports history, and Robert Kraft instructed Roger to investigate air pressure and suspend his franchise QB.

He'll do what they want when it comes to the money side, but all of these rules are Roger and his cronies' ideas. And it wouldn't matter who is making the decisions in the event of a lockout. The bottom line is that you put pressure on the NFL to make them concede some of their power. Specifically, disallowing Roger to be the judge, jury and executioner.

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By all means! Bring back the head slap, the chop block, the crack back, hits to the head with your shoulder. Let those DE's and LB's take the QB off at the knees!!! Get rid of the face mask too!!! Then we can all enjoy football the way it was 30 - 40 years ago!!!!! Roll the salaries back 30 years too!
I'd love to go to a "Real Football" game again. If I can hand start my Model T i'll be there!!

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Your sarcasm might have hit it's intended mark if it had anything to do with Goodell.

Nobody is talking about 30 years ago. How about 15 years ago when you could TOUCH a receiver without being flagged? When as long as you weren't hitting the quarterback extremely late, you were alright? Now you have a specific code of ethics you have to adhere to, and must complete a QB sensitivity meeting before you are allowed to hit a QB in very limited ways. If you don't do any of that just right, you got yourself a 15 yard penalty and probably a fine.

And heaven forbid somebody wears their eye black the wrong way. Don't dare have a message for your late father written there. It's WAY too offensive. Oh, and while we're talking about player safety, let's eat a giant bowl of hypocrisy soup and try to extend the season to 18 games.

Then there's making teams travel across the ocean to play a "home game".

Let's give a guy a two game suspension for punching his fiancee, then make a rule after the fact that domestic violence is a 6 game suspension and arbitrarily extend the sentence for the guy just suspended based on a rule that didn't exist when you first suspended him. AND then suspend other players 10,12, 16 games.... whatever Roger feels like, for other domestic violence cases, even though he had just made a rule that said it was 6 games.

He rules with the integrity, common sense and consistency of a toddler. And that's probably being mean to toddlers everywhere.

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Goodell has no power.
He does what the owners tell him.

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Blame the owners, not Goodell.
He's their puppet.

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Blame the owners, yes, but not a puppet but a monster created and out of control...

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Fire RG!

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Again, do the owners tell Roger to suspend their own players and coaches for essentially no reason? I think not.

We can blame the owners for putting him in the position he's in, but Roger has taken it upon himself to become the dictator he is. If every owner had experienced what the Saints and Patriots have, you can bet Roger wouldn't have a job.

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Pimp Daddy has some thoughts...

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His appointment is like that of a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, it's an appointment for life and it'd take more than a 2/3rd group of owners to force a no confidence vote and removal...

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely...John Dalberg-Acton

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Exactly. People want to say the owners tell him what to do, but this guy clearly has his own interests in mind with much of what he does. The other owners won't care until their owns teams get screwed. So he just gets to keep doing what he wants.

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The only entity that's been able to check Goodell is the Federal Court system...which I'm not a fan...

And I'm not against a guy being able to earn, but his compensation is absolutely ridiculous for his production...

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You are absolutely correct sir!

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Steve Bisciotti, Roger Goodell Must Answer for Cover-Up of Rice Evidence | Bleacher Report

(excerpt) Per a bombshell of an investigation by ESPN reporters Don Van Natta Jr. and Kevin Van Valkenburg, Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti thought his personal attachment to Ray Rice was more important than his team, the NFL, Janay Palmer or the law—and nobody had the guts to stand up to him.

In repeated acts of supreme arrogance, Bisciotti tried to cover up the truth about Rice's vicious assault of Palmer. On Bisciotti's apparent orders, many of his employees made fools of themselves defending Rice: Rice himself, head coach John Harbaugh and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

Goodell, per the report, went against his own better judgement and the best interests of the league to go along with Bisciotti's plan.

The Ravens, for their part, have said the report contained "numerous errors, inaccuracies, false assumptions and, perhaps, misunderstandings."

But if there is even an element of truth to the reports of how they attempted to cover up the evidence against Rice, Bisciotti has to go and Goodell has to go along with him.

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Roger Goodell's Best, Worst Moves as NFL Commissioner | Bleacher Report

(excerpt) The original suspensions to the New Orleans Saints players were considered harsh, especially since they were just following orders from their defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

The nature of the suspensions and the proof didn't seem so convincing when ex-NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue got involved in the hearings and dismissed the Saints players.

This whole debacle is a great illustration of what happens when you give somebody who is very stubborn too much power. Goodell couldn't see the forest through the trees and became obstinate with the media and all other parties involved.

Maybe someday down the road we will finally know the truth about Bountygate, but until then, this whole adventure is clearly a blemish on Commissioner Goodell's track record.

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He's killing the NFL.

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The question I'd love to pose to the owners is this -

Would the NFL grow and be as profitable with a competent, tempered leader as Commissioner, not named Goodell?

If so, why is Goodell compensated as he is?

Why is he allowed to act as a unchecked authoritarian?

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Once again, Goodell shows favoritism to an NFL Big Market Team, gives roster exemption to G'nats for K Josh Brown who beat down his spouse...

Where's the liberal eastern seaboard media outlets, who're screaming about Trump, yet ignore another misogynist move by Herr Goodell?

Details > Brown sent to commissioner exempt list; teams unhappy with NFL, Giants over case - CBSSports.com

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Oh yeah, because the average joe can't comprehend that some rules only apply to some people...

Amid Josh Brown fiasco, Roger Goodell says public has 'misunderstanding' of NFL punishment | NFL | Sporting News

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Why does the personal conduct policy not apply to franchise owners as it would in say a McDonald's or Krispy Kreme?

Because he works for the owners and is compensated well for it...

You really think a player could get away with this schitt below (which still cracks me up)...