jeanpierre

Too much blood has been spilled in this country for individual civil rights, including due process for this to continue...

lee909

While i agree the players were stupid enough to gove it to him. Mostly because the majority are like children with money and needed their paycheck and couldnt hold out

I do think thete could be a long labour holdout come the next cba

burningmetal

I've never wanted to have a lockout, for obvious reasons, and I think the amount of bickering that goes on between millionaires and billionaires is pretty pathetic.

But what Roger is doing and has threatened to do at other times goes beyond money. It's threatening to destroy the game. With that in mind, I would support the players in a lockout this time around, if that's what it takes.

I'm sick of hearing people say "oh the game will survive". Maybe. But what kind of game will it be? I already enjoy football WAY less than I did 10 or 15 years ago. All the wussification in the last decade really made it a teeth grinding event to try to watch defenses get flagged for nearly every good play. It's only gotten worse with all the suspensions and fines over innocuous matters.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

lee909

Id always support the players in a lockout. Im pro union (i know they are not as popular over there as here. But so many of your unions seem to have crime links etc that doesnt/didn't happen here). The players should be making the money not the owners imo.

Anyway something needs done and a season with little or even no football might cost the owners enough that they fire him

burningmetal

Well unless the players want to start buying teams, they can't make all the money. Owners make gross amounts of money and they want to hog it all, but they made the huge investment to be able to reap those rewards. They aren't, generally speaking, the most generous of people for sure. But that's how it goes.

The players play, and they are the product, but I don't think they are hurting to the point where they need to demand more and more money. In the regular world, you make whatever your boss offers, and we have a minimum wage in place. The NFL is it's own entity and only owes what percentage it has signed off on to pay. But of course as the league makes more money players feel entitled to it because they are, as I said, the product.

But where else in the world do you automatically get a certain percentage of what the company you work for makes? Unless you have a piece of ownership you aren't entitled to anything that wasn't previously agreed upon. That's my problem with the union. Are you being taken care of? If the answer is yes, it just becomes a greed war on both sides, and it's ugly.

But I would support them in this case, specifically about these horrible rules and restrictions. And Goodell has to have his power limited. Right now he is an absolute dictator.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

A.8Manning

Goodell has nothing to do with anything.
He does what the owners tell him to

neugey

It's just one witch hunt after another. Now it's Ninkovich. It's a Goodell thing.

lee909

As much as i cant stand him if Ninkovich has taken something, even a over the counter supplement that contains a band substance its his own fault and i have no sympathy. Players have it drummed into them to take nothing bot prescribed by the team. Its the same in all sports.

I cant stand the man,the rubbish forcing players to speak after the ridiculous al Jazeera report and suspending players after they have a case the law says doesnt need andwered but Goodell says it does

burningmetal

Right, because Tom Benson instructed Roger to blow up the Saints seasin in 2012 with one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in sports history, and Robert Kraft instructed Roger to investigate air pressure and suspend his franchise QB.

He'll do what they want when it comes to the money side, but all of these rules are Roger and his cronies' ideas. And it wouldn't matter who is making the decisions in the event of a lockout. The bottom line is that you put pressure on the NFL to make them concede some of their power. Specifically, disallowing Roger to be the judge, jury and executioner.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

vpheughan

By all means! Bring back the head slap, the chop block, the crack back, hits to the head with your shoulder. Let those DE's and LB's take the QB off at the knees!!! Get rid of the face mask too!!! Then we can all enjoy football the way it was 30 - 40 years ago!!!!! Roll the salaries back 30 years too!
I'd love to go to a "Real Football" game again. If I can hand start my Model T i'll be there!!