PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more

jeanpierre · 03-22-2018, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Too many inconsistencies.

Let's just hope the next rule "change" is that spot foul on defensive players. Just line it up 15 yards from scrimmage. I've seen a lot of teams get bailed out by this spot foul non sense.

Agreed. That's some of that knee-jerk over-reaction legislative-ness - oh, well, a safe fell out of a moving truck going up-hill on a Sunday and killed a kitten so we're going to make a rule that safes have to be transfered by licensed, registered safe transportation organizations...

Hey, if a team commits three, four pass interference infractions in a row without making a play, fine, then you give the ball to the offense on the 1 yd line...

This throw it up there on one play in the end-zone and draw the NBA touch foul is total bullshinski...

The pussification of the game under Goodell's tenure to enhance scoring when nothing was wrong with the game in the first place is ridiculous...

SaintsBro · 03-22-2018, 11:53 AM

Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about.

I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays.

Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin.

When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film.

The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved.

jeanpierre · 03-23-2018, 03:26 PM

jeanpierre · 03-23-2018, 03:47 PM

jeanpierre · 03-25-2018, 10:25 PM

F**K! This is the one rule I wanted to see returned to what it was...

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jeanpierre · 03-25-2018, 10:30 PM

"...Of the 303 defensive pass interference penalties in the 2017 season, 129 were marked off more than 15 yards..."

jeanpierre · 03-26-2018, 12:03 PM

jeanpierre · 03-27-2018, 12:15 PM

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SaintGnome · 03-27-2018, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about.

I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays.

Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin.

When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film.

The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved.

This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters.

SmashMouth · 03-28-2018, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters.

Just how many millimeters are in an inch?

03-22-2018, 10:14 AM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more Originally Posted by K Major Too many inconsistencies. Let's just hope the next rule "change" is that spot foul on defensive players. Just line it up 15 yards from scrimmage. I've seen a lot of teams get bailed out by this spot foul non sense. Agreed. That's some of that knee-jerk over-reaction legislative-ness - oh, well, a safe fell out of a moving truck going up-hill on a Sunday and killed a kitten so we're going to make a rule that safes have to be transfered by licensed, registered safe transportation organizations... Hey, if a team commits three, four pass interference infractions in a row without making a play, fine, then you give the ball to the offense on the 1 yd line... This throw it up there on one play in the end-zone and draw the NBA touch foul is total bullshinski... The pussification of the game under Goodell's tenure to enhance scoring when nothing was wrong with the game in the first place is ridiculous... K Major likes this.
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03-22-2018, 11:53 AM	#12
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about. I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays. Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin. When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film. The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved. saintfan and SaintGnome like this.

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03-27-2018, 06:46 PM	#19
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more Originally Posted by SaintsBro Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about. I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays. Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin. When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film. The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved. This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters.

03-28-2018, 10:18 AM	#20
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,211 Blog Entries: 29	Re: PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more Originally Posted by SaintGnome This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters. Just how many millimeters are in an inch? K Major likes this.