Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt

burningmetal · 11-25-2018, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I am calling him an idiot because he is jeopardizing his NFL career and/or Child Services could take his kids from him or make his life a living hell.

Because he uses a belt? Where is your evidence that he is causing harm now? You're still going on what happened years ago. My parents would have been taken from me if your reasoning were enough to indict anyone. And that would have made people like yourself would be responsible for a great deal of anger on my part.

ChrisXVI · 11-25-2018, 05:10 PM

WhoDat!656 · 11-25-2018, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Because he uses a belt? Where is your evidence that he is causing harm now? You're still going on what happened years ago. My parents would have been taken from me if your reasoning were enough to indict anyone. And that would have made people like yourself responsible for a great deal of anger on my part.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you!

burningmetal · 11-25-2018, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you!

No, I'm afraid you can't explain it to me. Because you haven't explained it. All we have here is AP saying that he still uses a belt. Not a switch. And we have nothing that says his boy has welps and bruises. But you are calling him an idiot, anyway. This is less about Peterson, in particular, as it is about just calling ANYONE an idiot for using a belt. Telling me about something that happened years ago has nothing to do with this.

You aren't addressing the issue. You're just bringing up an old incident over and over.

burningmetal · 11-25-2018, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That chart is ignorant and useless.

I was more than old enough at 5 years old to know when I did something wrong, and why I was getting the belt. And using a belt is not "striking". Nobody punched me in the face, or gave me lash marks with a whip. And I grew up as a well behaved kid.

"Reasoning" with a child only goes so far if there are no consequences. It's easy to just say that something is wrong, and tell them what is right. But when a child is acting out, in any way, there is a reason for it, and if they are old enough to understand reason, then they already knew by that time that what they were doing was wrong.

So just telling them "hey, you can't do that, because it's wrong, and I don't want you to grow up to be a bad person" isn't going to change anything, because you've given them no consequence to fear. Now, you can choose to punish the child in some way. That's fine. My parents used a belt for more minor offenses, and punished me and my siblings by banning us from something for a certain period of time, for the more serious offenses.

WhoDat!656 · 11-25-2018, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

No, I'm afraid you can't explain it to me. Because you haven't explained it. All we have here is AP saying that he still uses a belt. Not a switch. And we have nothing that says his boy has welps and bruises. But you are calling him an idiot, anyway. This is less about Peterson, in particular, as it is about just calling ANYONE an idiot for using a belt. Telling me about something that happened years ago has nothing to do with this.

You aren't addressing the issue. You're just bringing up an old incident over and over.

I am going to go over this one more time; please try to keep up:

In 2014, Adrian Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE, entered a plea deal to misdemeanor reckless assault, and was suspended from the NFL for beating his son.

Regardless of any legal issues, Peterson could also now face discipline from the NFL, which made clear when Peterson was suspended in 2014 that his reinstatement was dependent upon his agreeing to go through counseling and be a better father to his children.

If the NFL views Peterson hitting his son with a belt as a failure to “properly care for your children,” he could be suspended regardless of whether he faces criminal charges. The NFL has made it clear with past incidents that players can be disciplined under the personal-conduct policy even if they are not criminally charged.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell also told Peterson in a letter that Goodell found it troubling that, “You have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct.” That Peterson is now openly talking about hitting his son with a belt again suggests no meaningful remorse. Peterson may again find himself sanctioned for hitting his son.

Anyone that potentially risks his career by doing the same thing again, and then tells a reporter that he did it, is in my opinion an IDIOT!

burningmetal · 11-26-2018, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I am going to go over this one more time; please try to keep up:

In 2014, Adrian Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE, entered a plea deal to misdemeanor reckless assault, and was suspended from the NFL for beating his son.

Regardless of any legal issues, Peterson could also now face discipline from the NFL, which made clear when Peterson was suspended in 2014 that his reinstatement was dependent upon his agreeing to go through counseling and be a better father to his children.

If the NFL views Peterson hitting his son with a belt as a failure to “properly care for your children,” he could be suspended regardless of whether he faces criminal charges. The NFL has made it clear with past incidents that players can be disciplined under the personal-conduct policy even if they are not criminally charged.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell also told Peterson in a letter that Goodell found it troubling that, “You have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct.” That Peterson is now openly talking about hitting his son with a belt again suggests no meaningful remorse. Peterson may again find himself sanctioned for hitting his son.

Anyone that potentially risks his career by doing the same thing again, and then tells a reporter that he did it, is in my opinion an IDIOT!

Now let's see if you can keep up with me, smart guy. He is using a belt. The incident from 2014 was a switch, which is far more likely to cause damage.

The fact that he admits to using a belt, is not the same as admitting that he is injuring his son. All he is saying is that he still disciplines his child, which he should, as long as he isn't going overboard.

If Roger Goodell has a problem with a belt, then I have a problem with Goodell. Listen to whose side you're taking. You are using the moral judgement of Roger Goodell to argue with me that Peterson is abusing his child. What would Roger Goodell know about remorse?

Goodell just thinks using a belt is bad. So by agreeing with him, you are taking the side of all of the snowflake liberals who want to tell all of us how to raise our own kids, whether you stopped to realize that or not.

My point remains 100% the same. You are making your judgement off of 2014. I'm glad you aren't a judge.

OldMaid · 11-29-2018, 07:43 PM

OMG, this man , Peterson needs to STFU. Get parenting classes.

Shanking is one thing. A handswat on the butt. Abuse , which that was with Peterson, is something else.

I am not getting in the debate to spank or not.

Punishing makes an impact . Losing fav things and privileges, oh boy.

QBREES9 · 12-08-2018, 11:33 PM

Dumbass.

11-25-2018, 05:02 PM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I am calling him an idiot because he is jeopardizing his NFL career and/or Child Services could take his kids from him or make his life a living hell. Because he uses a belt? Where is your evidence that he is causing harm now? You're still going on what happened years ago. My parents would have been taken from me if your reasoning were enough to indict anyone. And that would have made people like yourself would be responsible for a great deal of anger on my part.

11-25-2018, 05:10 PM	#12
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11-25-2018, 05:11 PM	#13
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by burningmetal Because he uses a belt? Where is your evidence that he is causing harm now? You're still going on what happened years ago. My parents would have been taken from me if your reasoning were enough to indict anyone. And that would have made people like yourself responsible for a great deal of anger on my part. I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you!

11-25-2018, 06:15 PM	#14
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you! No, I'm afraid you can't explain it to me. Because you haven't explained it. All we have here is AP saying that he still uses a belt. Not a switch. And we have nothing that says his boy has welps and bruises. But you are calling him an idiot, anyway. This is less about Peterson, in particular, as it is about just calling ANYONE an idiot for using a belt. Telling me about something that happened years ago has nothing to do with this. You aren't addressing the issue. You're just bringing up an old incident over and over.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-25-2018, 06:25 PM	#15
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That chart is ignorant and useless. I was more than old enough at 5 years old to know when I did something wrong, and why I was getting the belt. And using a belt is not "striking". Nobody punched me in the face, or gave me lash marks with a whip. And I grew up as a well behaved kid. "Reasoning" with a child only goes so far if there are no consequences. It's easy to just say that something is wrong, and tell them what is right. But when a child is acting out, in any way, there is a reason for it, and if they are old enough to understand reason, then they already knew by that time that what they were doing was wrong. So just telling them "hey, you can't do that, because it's wrong, and I don't want you to grow up to be a bad person" isn't going to change anything, because you've given them no consequence to fear. Now, you can choose to punish the child in some way. That's fine. My parents used a belt for more minor offenses, and punished me and my siblings by banning us from something for a certain period of time, for the more serious offenses. frydaddy likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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11-25-2018, 07:03 PM	#16
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by burningmetal No, I'm afraid you can't explain it to me. Because you haven't explained it. All we have here is AP saying that he still uses a belt. Not a switch. And we have nothing that says his boy has welps and bruises. But you are calling him an idiot, anyway. This is less about Peterson, in particular, as it is about just calling ANYONE an idiot for using a belt. Telling me about something that happened years ago has nothing to do with this. You aren't addressing the issue. You're just bringing up an old incident over and over. I am going to go over this one more time; please try to keep up: In 2014, Adrian Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE, entered a plea deal to misdemeanor reckless assault, and was suspended from the NFL for beating his son. Regardless of any legal issues, Peterson could also now face discipline from the NFL, which made clear when Peterson was suspended in 2014 that his reinstatement was dependent upon his agreeing to go through counseling and be a better father to his children. If the NFL views Peterson hitting his son with a belt as a failure to “properly care for your children,” he could be suspended regardless of whether he faces criminal charges. The NFL has made it clear with past incidents that players can be disciplined under the personal-conduct policy even if they are not criminally charged. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell also told Peterson in a letter that Goodell found it troubling that, “You have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct.” That Peterson is now openly talking about hitting his son with a belt again suggests no meaningful remorse. Peterson may again find himself sanctioned for hitting his son. Anyone that potentially risks his career by doing the same thing again, and then tells a reporter that he did it, is in my opinion an IDIOT!
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11-26-2018, 04:55 AM	#17
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I am going to go over this one more time; please try to keep up: In 2014, Adrian Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE, entered a plea deal to misdemeanor reckless assault, and was suspended from the NFL for beating his son. Regardless of any legal issues, Peterson could also now face discipline from the NFL, which made clear when Peterson was suspended in 2014 that his reinstatement was dependent upon his agreeing to go through counseling and be a better father to his children. If the NFL views Peterson hitting his son with a belt as a failure to “properly care for your children,” he could be suspended regardless of whether he faces criminal charges. The NFL has made it clear with past incidents that players can be disciplined under the personal-conduct policy even if they are not criminally charged. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell also told Peterson in a letter that Goodell found it troubling that, “You have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct.” That Peterson is now openly talking about hitting his son with a belt again suggests no meaningful remorse. Peterson may again find himself sanctioned for hitting his son. Anyone that potentially risks his career by doing the same thing again, and then tells a reporter that he did it, is in my opinion an IDIOT! Now let's see if you can keep up with me, smart guy. He is using a belt. The incident from 2014 was a switch, which is far more likely to cause damage. The fact that he admits to using a belt, is not the same as admitting that he is injuring his son. All he is saying is that he still disciplines his child, which he should, as long as he isn't going overboard. If Roger Goodell has a problem with a belt, then I have a problem with Goodell. Listen to whose side you're taking. You are using the moral judgement of Roger Goodell to argue with me that Peterson is abusing his child. What would Roger Goodell know about remorse? Goodell just thinks using a belt is bad. So by agreeing with him, you are taking the side of all of the snowflake liberals who want to tell all of us how to raise our own kids, whether you stopped to realize that or not. My point remains 100% the same. You are making your judgement off of 2014. I'm glad you aren't a judge.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-29-2018, 07:43 PM	#18
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,912 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt OMG, this man , Peterson needs to STFU. Get parenting classes. Shanking is one thing. A handswat on the butt. Abuse , which that was with Peterson, is something else. I am not getting in the debate to spank or not. Punishing makes an impact . Losing fav things and privileges, oh boy.

12-08-2018, 11:33 PM	#19
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Adrian Peterson admits he still hits his son with a belt Dumbass.