Andrew Luck Retires

44Champs · 08-24-2019, 11:07 PM

Wow - if not for the injuries he couldve been Top 10 all time. He was a classy guy - I wish him all the best in his retirement

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jeanpierre · 08-24-2019, 11:22 PM

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jeanpierre · 08-24-2019, 11:33 PM

Twenty-five years later...

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jeanpierre · 08-24-2019, 11:36 PM

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CHA_CHING · 08-25-2019, 12:12 PM

Great article by Warren Sharp about how Grigson set all this up for Luck to stay injured.

He took the most hits of any QB of the past 5 years.

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...injuries-hits/

Grigson only drafted 3 offensive linemen after the 7th round and they were all trash.

During the entirety of the four years of Luck’s rookie contract, Grigson drafted a total of three offensive linemen before the seventh round:

Hugh Thornton (cut before his rookie deal expired and never played again in the NFL)
Khaled Holmes (cut before his rookie deal expired and never played again in the NFL)
Jack Mewhort (never played again in the NFL after his rookie deal expired)
You can argue that the style in which Andrew Luck plays makes him more likely to be injured, and that is true.

You can argue that a player can be injured at any point in time, whether he has a good or bad offensive line, and that is true.

But what you can’t argue is that Ryan Grigson’s spending of cap dollars came to a head in 2015, producing subpar talent along the offensive line (one of the cheapest in the NFL).

And Grigson’s decisions produced measurable results in terms of volume of hits and sacks on Andrew Luck in that 2015 season (via Pro Football Focus):

2012: 38.1% pressure rate, 8% sack + hit rate, 41 sacks

2013: 37.5% pressure rate, 6% sack + hit rate, 32 sacks

2014: 36.2% pressure rate, 5% sack + hit rate, 27 sacks

2015: 40.2% pressure rate, 14% sack + hit rate, 34 sacks (extrapolated to a 16-game season)*

*Played only 7 games due to injury

Luck played in 2016, but was once again a man running for his life, as the stats clearly show:

2016: 44.3% pressure rate, 9% sack + hit rate, 44 sacks (extrapolated to a 16-game season)

SaintsBro · 08-27-2019, 01:17 PM

Man, reading that quote that Cha Ching posted, if I'm Andrew Luck, I'm turning in my papers and retiring too....funny thing is, the Colts had a pretty great O line in the Peyton Manning era, including Jeff Saturday and Tarik Glenn and some of those guys. Luck was running around back there behind one of the cheapest O lines in the league. Really puts it in perspective.

CHA_CHING · 08-27-2019, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Man, reading that quote that Cha Ching posted, if I'm Andrew Luck, I'm turning in my papers and retiring too....funny thing is, the Colts had a pretty great O line in the Peyton Manning era, including Jeff Saturday and Tarik Glenn and some of those guys. Luck was running around back there behind one of the cheapest O lines in the league. Really puts it in perspective.

Yeah, this is true. The Colts under Bill Polian prioritized the o-line and took great measures to protect Manning. Their o-line was always strong even in the last years under coach Jim Caldwell. Polian had also built some top notch o-lines in Buffalo back in the 90's when they had their 4 year run. Those lines were essential in protecting Jim Kelly and when Thurman Thomas won a league MVP.

Irsay proves that he learned nothing from Manning's neck injury and how he managed to alienate him from the team. That press conference they did together was so terrible, and Irsay's quote "I want Super Bowls, not Star Wars numbers" was the most disrespectful thing he could've done to the QB who DID bring them a SB victory and got them to another one.

Irsay was quoted some time last year saying Luck needed to toughen it out and maybe take some aspirin. This is not an owner who cares about his star QB. You'd think he would have learned the first time around with how he treated Manning and threw him to the curb.

Luck's injuries were no joke. He had multiple shoulder injuries, but the one that got me was the lacerated kidney. That's organ damage right there. I agree with you, if I'm Luck and just got married and have a kid on the way, I'm taking retirement too and focusing on them.

08-24-2019, 11:07 PM	#1
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08-25-2019, 12:12 PM	#5
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Andrew Luck Retires Great article by Warren Sharp about how Grigson set all this up for Luck to stay injured. He took the most hits of any QB of the past 5 years. https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...injuries-hits/ Grigson only drafted 3 offensive linemen after the 7th round and they were all trash. During the entirety of the four years of Luck’s rookie contract, Grigson drafted a total of three offensive linemen before the seventh round: Hugh Thornton (cut before his rookie deal expired and never played again in the NFL) Khaled Holmes (cut before his rookie deal expired and never played again in the NFL) Jack Mewhort (never played again in the NFL after his rookie deal expired) You can argue that the style in which Andrew Luck plays makes him more likely to be injured, and that is true. You can argue that a player can be injured at any point in time, whether he has a good or bad offensive line, and that is true. But what you can’t argue is that Ryan Grigson’s spending of cap dollars came to a head in 2015, producing subpar talent along the offensive line (one of the cheapest in the NFL). And Grigson’s decisions produced measurable results in terms of volume of hits and sacks on Andrew Luck in that 2015 season (via Pro Football Focus): 2012: 38.1% pressure rate, 8% sack + hit rate, 41 sacks 2013: 37.5% pressure rate, 6% sack + hit rate, 32 sacks 2014: 36.2% pressure rate, 5% sack + hit rate, 27 sacks 2015: 40.2% pressure rate, 14% sack + hit rate, 34 sacks (extrapolated to a 16-game season)* *Played only 7 games due to injury Luck played in 2016, but was once again a man running for his life, as the stats clearly show: 2016: 44.3% pressure rate, 9% sack + hit rate, 44 sacks (extrapolated to a 16-game season) SaintsBro likes this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Andrew Luck Retires Man, reading that quote that Cha Ching posted, if I'm Andrew Luck, I'm turning in my papers and retiring too....funny thing is, the Colts had a pretty great O line in the Peyton Manning era, including Jeff Saturday and Tarik Glenn and some of those guys. Luck was running around back there behind one of the cheapest O lines in the league. Really puts it in perspective. CHA_CHING likes this.

08-27-2019, 03:43 PM	#7
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Andrew Luck Retires Originally Posted by SaintsBro Man, reading that quote that Cha Ching posted, if I'm Andrew Luck, I'm turning in my papers and retiring too....funny thing is, the Colts had a pretty great O line in the Peyton Manning era, including Jeff Saturday and Tarik Glenn and some of those guys. Luck was running around back there behind one of the cheapest O lines in the league. Really puts it in perspective. Yeah, this is true. The Colts under Bill Polian prioritized the o-line and took great measures to protect Manning. Their o-line was always strong even in the last years under coach Jim Caldwell. Polian had also built some top notch o-lines in Buffalo back in the 90's when they had their 4 year run. Those lines were essential in protecting Jim Kelly and when Thurman Thomas won a league MVP. Irsay proves that he learned nothing from Manning's neck injury and how he managed to alienate him from the team. That press conference they did together was so terrible, and Irsay's quote "I want Super Bowls, not Star Wars numbers" was the most disrespectful thing he could've done to the QB who DID bring them a SB victory and got them to another one. Irsay was quoted some time last year saying Luck needed to toughen it out and maybe take some aspirin. This is not an owner who cares about his star QB. You'd think he would have learned the first time around with how he treated Manning and threw him to the curb. Luck's injuries were no joke. He had multiple shoulder injuries, but the one that got me was the lacerated kidney. That's organ damage right there. I agree with you, if I'm Luck and just got married and have a kid on the way, I'm taking retirement too and focusing on them.