Andrew Luck Retires

WillSaints81 · 08-25-2019, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Whatever you think of Peyton Manning as a person or player, he did not deserve what Irsay did him with that press conference when the Colts cut him. It has to be brought up cause their owner is terrible and mishandling Luck is only the tip of the iceberg. This all goes back to how he put Manning out the door to begin this era with Luck.

The "I want Super Bowl wins, not Star Wars numbers" quote will never be forgotten. That whole press conference was so bad and him saying that with Peyton standing right next to him the entire time. Here you have the QB who took your losing franchise, and elevated them to a level of respectability and even won a SB, and you tell him his stats are "Star Wars numbers"? Irsay deserved every minute of watching Peyton in Denver uniform make the playoffs and ultimate win a SB in his last year.

Irsay was also quoted saying Luck needed to "toughen it up" after his injuries. He refused to take responsibility by waiting a whole extra year to get rid of Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano. Why was Grigson even hired as GM, I will never know. He was a scout in Philly and there were reports that the Eagles office was completely stunned when the Colts took him for GM.

I wish Luck a happy retirement. I enjoyed watching him as a player and wanted to see him become an elite QB. He's a likable guy off the field and I sometimes wonder if he would've had a better career elsewhere without the Colts tanking the whole 2011 season to get him.

He could be playing for Washington if he wasn't a Colt and that's an even worse place to play. If Washington still wanted RG3 he probably would have been a Viking or Brown. Not better either. Hw wouldn't have had three straight 11-5 seasons with those teams. The problem with the Colts was what happened after 2014 when they tried to beat NE by signing aging players.

CHA_CHING · 08-25-2019, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

He could be playing for Washington if he wasn't a Colt and that's an even worse place to play. If Washington still wanted RG3 he probably would have been a Viking or Brown. Not better either. Hw wouldn't have had three straight 11-5 seasons with those teams. The problem with the Colts was what happened after 2014 when they tried to beat NE by signing aging players.

Those Colts teams were mediocre at best and looked it when they were blown out in the playoffs.

They boasted 11-5 records from playing the worst division in the league.

Of those 11-5 records, they were going 6-0 against their AFC South rivals, then 5-5 vs the rest of the league. They would get throttled by top tier AFC teams like New England and Pittsburgh.

While everybody loves to talk that nonsense about how the Pats are only good cause the AFC East is so bad, that talk is actually true for the Colts and Packers of the last decade. Both have struggled against non divisional teams while usually dominating their crappy divisions to barely squeak out a 10-6 or 11-5 record.

It took the Chiefs pulling a 90s Oilers type choke job to get the Colts a playoff win in 2013. New England destroyed them a week later.

In 2014, they played way over their heads getting passed a Denver team whom had an offense that had been struggling for a month now. They were blown out by New England a week later.

The AFC South became competitive in 2015 and the easy division wins for Indy ended afterwards.

08-25-2019, 10:07 AM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Andrew Luck Retires Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Whatever you think of Peyton Manning as a person or player, he did not deserve what Irsay did him with that press conference when the Colts cut him. It has to be brought up cause their owner is terrible and mishandling Luck is only the tip of the iceberg. This all goes back to how he put Manning out the door to begin this era with Luck. The "I want Super Bowl wins, not Star Wars numbers" quote will never be forgotten. That whole press conference was so bad and him saying that with Peyton standing right next to him the entire time. Here you have the QB who took your losing franchise, and elevated them to a level of respectability and even won a SB, and you tell him his stats are "Star Wars numbers"? Irsay deserved every minute of watching Peyton in Denver uniform make the playoffs and ultimate win a SB in his last year. Irsay was also quoted saying Luck needed to "toughen it up" after his injuries. He refused to take responsibility by waiting a whole extra year to get rid of Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano. Why was Grigson even hired as GM, I will never know. He was a scout in Philly and there were reports that the Eagles office was completely stunned when the Colts took him for GM. I wish Luck a happy retirement. I enjoyed watching him as a player and wanted to see him become an elite QB. He's a likable guy off the field and I sometimes wonder if he would've had a better career elsewhere without the Colts tanking the whole 2011 season to get him. He could be playing for Washington if he wasn't a Colt and that's an even worse place to play. If Washington still wanted RG3 he probably would have been a Viking or Brown. Not better either. Hw wouldn't have had three straight 11-5 seasons with those teams. The problem with the Colts was what happened after 2014 when they tried to beat NE by signing aging players.

08-25-2019, 10:26 AM	#2
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Andrew Luck Retires Originally Posted by WillSaints81 He could be playing for Washington if he wasn't a Colt and that's an even worse place to play. If Washington still wanted RG3 he probably would have been a Viking or Brown. Not better either. Hw wouldn't have had three straight 11-5 seasons with those teams. The problem with the Colts was what happened after 2014 when they tried to beat NE by signing aging players. Those Colts teams were mediocre at best and looked it when they were blown out in the playoffs. They boasted 11-5 records from playing the worst division in the league. Of those 11-5 records, they were going 6-0 against their AFC South rivals, then 5-5 vs the rest of the league. They would get throttled by top tier AFC teams like New England and Pittsburgh. While everybody loves to talk that nonsense about how the Pats are only good cause the AFC East is so bad, that talk is actually true for the Colts and Packers of the last decade. Both have struggled against non divisional teams while usually dominating their crappy divisions to barely squeak out a 10-6 or 11-5 record. It took the Chiefs pulling a 90s Oilers type choke job to get the Colts a playoff win in 2013. New England destroyed them a week later. In 2014, they played way over their heads getting passed a Denver team whom had an offense that had been struggling for a month now. They were blown out by New England a week later. The AFC South became competitive in 2015 and the easy division wins for Indy ended afterwards.

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