Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee'

SmashMouth · 10-18-2019, 12:33 PM

Kansas City Chiefs guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif is a medical school graduate but didn't need any particular knowledge to immediately realize the severity of Patrick Mahomes' right knee injury.

"Everybody could have known something was wrong," Duvernay-Tardif said.

Mahomes dislocated his right kneecap in the second quarter of Thursday night's game against the Denver Broncos. It was quickly massaged back into place by members of the Chiefs' medical staff, but the quarterback left the game at that point and didn't return.

Tight end Travis Kelce said, "His knee didn't even look like a knee. It was all out of whack. I couldn't even describe it."

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Hope recovers quickly.

Therein lies the challenge with running QBs. We've seen it all before.

SaintsBro · 10-18-2019, 02:16 PM

If that had been Brees I would have been furious at Payton. Who in their right mind makes that call, of a QB sneak with an already-wounded player, when you're stacked with receivers and running backs in that situation?

foreverfan · 10-18-2019, 02:47 PM

Are any of us going to miss him in the Superbowl?

K Major · 10-18-2019, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

If that had been Brees I would have been furious at Payton. Who in their right mind makes that call, of a QB sneak with an already-wounded player, when you're stacked with receivers and running backs in that situation?

But what about those short yardage "leaps" that Brees does on 3rd and goal over the years? In my eyes, that form of QB "sneak" is just a dangerous.

CHA_CHING · 10-18-2019, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

If that had been Brees I would have been furious at Payton. Who in their right mind makes that call, of a QB sneak with an already-wounded player, when you're stacked with receivers and running backs in that situation?

Andy Reid.

I will never understand why people constantly pick KC as a Super Bowl favorite. Reid has proven time and time again, no matter how close his teams may be to the big game, he'll find a way to screw it up.

His playoff record so far in K.C. looks eerily similar to how it looked through the early years in Philly.

Reid hates running the ball. It was like this back when Smith was the QB and he did this for years in Philly. It's one of the essential reasons he is poorly skilled in clock management.

This injury could severely hurt Mahomes' play style. He is like Aaron Rodgers and both of them depend far too much on their athleticism and legs than picking apart defenses. For years Packers fans have argued that Rodgers is better when he's hobbled because then he's forced to make quicker decisions and not hold onto the ball forever trying to find a big play down field. Mahomes has this same issue with his play style.

SaintsBro · 10-18-2019, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

But what about those short yardage "leaps" that Brees does on 3rd and goal over the years? In my eyes, that form of QB "sneak" is just a dangerous.

Well the leap (with extending the ball) is one of Brees' most famous bread-and-butter plays. He's a warrior and he's done it many, many times throughout his career. And usually with the patented leap and dive, Brees usually goes UP and lands on top of the pile, whereas the Mahomes sneak had him running into the scrum and into the pile and ending up hitting the ground at the bottom of the pile. It's really two totally different types of plays, in terms of where the QB's body ends up and how much contact they get.

But I'm talking about IF Payton called that play while Brees already had a serious ankle injury? That would be a completely different matter. My point was that Mahomes was already injured when that play was called....it's reckless and irresponsible to do that with your franchise QB.

CHA_CHING · 10-18-2019, 04:45 PM

The reason we and New England both convert so many short yardage situations on 3rd and inches or 4th and inches, is because they both go no huddle and the QB quickly does the leap while the defense is resetting and off guard.

That wasn't the same here. The Chiefs ran the clock down, as Andy Reid always does and Denver had time to plan for it.

K Major · 10-18-2019, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

My point was that Mahomes was already injured when that play was called....it's reckless and irresponsible to do that with your franchise QB.

Blame it on the Madden Curse.

jeanpierre · 10-18-2019, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Andy Reid.

I will never understand why people constantly pick KC as a Super Bowl favorite. Reid has proven time and time again, no matter how close his teams may be to the big game, he'll find a way to screw it up.

If Sean Payton retired or went to Dallas, , Andy Reid, Sean McDermott, Bruce Arians, or Ken Whisenhunt would be on my short list and Reid would be out front...

CHA_CHING · 10-18-2019, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If Sean Payton retired or went to Dallas, , Andy Reid, Sean McDermott, Bruce Arians, or Ken Whisenhunt would be on my short list and Reid would be out front...

I talk football with some Cowboys fans who are old timers, and they 100% believe the reason they're stuck with the clapper is cause Jerrah just can't get over the fact he let Payton go and he turned us into a powerhouse team.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Kansas City Chiefs guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif is a medical school graduate but didn't need any particular knowledge to immediately realize the severity of Patrick Mahomes' right knee injury. "Everybody could have known something was wrong," Duvernay-Tardif said. Mahomes dislocated his right kneecap in the second quarter of Thursday night's game against the Denver Broncos. It was quickly massaged back into place by members of the Chiefs' medical staff, but the quarterback left the game at that point and didn't return. Tight end Travis Kelce said, "His knee didn't even look like a knee. It was all out of whack. I couldn't even describe it." more on ESPN Twitter Hope recovers quickly. Therein lies the challenge with running QBs. We've seen it all before.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by SaintsBro If that had been Brees I would have been furious at Payton. Who in their right mind makes that call, of a QB sneak with an already-wounded player, when you're stacked with receivers and running backs in that situation? But what about those short yardage "leaps" that Brees does on 3rd and goal over the years? In my eyes, that form of QB "sneak" is just a dangerous.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by SaintsBro If that had been Brees I would have been furious at Payton. Who in their right mind makes that call, of a QB sneak with an already-wounded player, when you're stacked with receivers and running backs in that situation? Andy Reid. I will never understand why people constantly pick KC as a Super Bowl favorite. Reid has proven time and time again, no matter how close his teams may be to the big game, he'll find a way to screw it up. His playoff record so far in K.C. looks eerily similar to how it looked through the early years in Philly. Reid hates running the ball. It was like this back when Smith was the QB and he did this for years in Philly. It's one of the essential reasons he is poorly skilled in clock management. This injury could severely hurt Mahomes' play style. He is like Aaron Rodgers and both of them depend far too much on their athleticism and legs than picking apart defenses. For years Packers fans have argued that Rodgers is better when he's hobbled because then he's forced to make quicker decisions and not hold onto the ball forever trying to find a big play down field. Mahomes has this same issue with his play style.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by K Major But what about those short yardage "leaps" that Brees does on 3rd and goal over the years? In my eyes, that form of QB "sneak" is just a dangerous. Well the leap (with extending the ball) is one of Brees' most famous bread-and-butter plays. He's a warrior and he's done it many, many times throughout his career. And usually with the patented leap and dive, Brees usually goes UP and lands on top of the pile, whereas the Mahomes sneak had him running into the scrum and into the pile and ending up hitting the ground at the bottom of the pile. It's really two totally different types of plays, in terms of where the QB's body ends up and how much contact they get. But I'm talking about IF Payton called that play while Brees already had a serious ankle injury? That would be a completely different matter. My point was that Mahomes was already injured when that play was called....it's reckless and irresponsible to do that with your franchise QB.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' The reason we and New England both convert so many short yardage situations on 3rd and inches or 4th and inches, is because they both go no huddle and the QB quickly does the leap while the defense is resetting and off guard. That wasn't the same here. The Chiefs ran the clock down, as Andy Reid always does and Denver had time to plan for it.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by SaintsBro My point was that Mahomes was already injured when that play was called....it's reckless and irresponsible to do that with your franchise QB. Blame it on the Madden Curse. neugey, SmashMouth, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Andy Reid. I will never understand why people constantly pick KC as a Super Bowl favorite. Reid has proven time and time again, no matter how close his teams may be to the big game, he'll find a way to screw it up. If Sean Payton retired or went to Dallas, , Andy Reid, Sean McDermott, Bruce Arians, or Ken Whisenhunt would be on my short list and Reid would be out front...

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Kelce on Mahomes: 'His knee didn't even look like a knee' Originally Posted by jeanpierre If Sean Payton retired or went to Dallas, , Andy Reid, Sean McDermott, Bruce Arians, or Ken Whisenhunt would be on my short list and Reid would be out front... I talk football with some Cowboys fans who are old timers, and they 100% believe the reason they're stuck with the clapper is cause Jerrah just can't get over the fact he let Payton go and he turned us into a powerhouse team. SmashMouth and OldMaid like this.