Mike Nolan fires in Dallas

gosaints1 · 01-11-2021, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jerry Jones got three rings in four years with two from a coach he ran off, and one that was a cruise director - perspective is everything...

But he did get three, and we’ve only gotten one..., which tells me his ownership style, while being very hands on, is more effective than the Benson Boogie crowd. Benson began in 85 and JJ began ownership in 89, iirc, roughly same amount of time.

AsylumGuido · 01-11-2021, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

But he did get three, and we’ve only gotten one..., which tells me his ownership style, while being very hands on, is more effective than the Benson Boogie crowd. Benson began in 85 and JJ began ownership in 89, iirc, roughly same amount of time.

More effective? Dallas has been irrelevant for the past quarter of a century under Jones' guidance.

gosaints1 · 01-11-2021, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

More effective? Dallas has been irrelevant for the past quarter of a century under Jones' guidance.

Change the timeline all you wish..., but Since JJ has been the owner of the Cowboys, 1989, 31 years ago, he has 3 (three) SB wins.

Since the Benson Boogie train has been in place, 4 (four) years before that, 1985, iirc, the Saints have 1 (One).

3 (three) is greater than 1 (one). I won’t pick an arbitrary timeline, one of my own creation, in order to deliberately mislead folks. I’ll use the entire timeline and accomplishments by both, in their respective timelines. One set of years is “cherry picking” (yours) and the other set is unambiguously factual (mine). Unless I made an error in their ownership dates. Entirely possible, lol.

“Relevancy” is a word I did not use, I used the word effective. And the reason I used effective is bc I very clearly think winning three times as many Super Bowl’s in fewer years is a more effective ownership paradigm..., that is if you use championships as the goal of each team at the beginning of each season. If you’re of the mindset that sitting around a drum circle signing folks songs is the better “goal” to determine effectiveness, then so be it. I use championships.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Mike Nolan fires in Dallas Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jerry Jones got three rings in four years with two from a coach he ran off, and one that was a cruise director - perspective is everything... But he did get three, and we’ve only gotten one..., which tells me his ownership style, while being very hands on, is more effective than the Benson Boogie crowd. Benson began in 85 and JJ began ownership in 89, iirc, roughly same amount of time.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Mike Nolan fires in Dallas Originally Posted by gosaints1 But he did get three, and we’ve only gotten one..., which tells me his ownership style, while being very hands on, is more effective than the Benson Boogie crowd. Benson began in 85 and JJ began ownership in 89, iirc, roughly same amount of time. More effective? Dallas has been irrelevant for the past quarter of a century under Jones' guidance.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Mike Nolan fires in Dallas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido More effective? Dallas has been irrelevant for the past quarter of a century under Jones' guidance. Change the timeline all you wish..., but Since JJ has been the owner of the Cowboys, 1989, 31 years ago, he has 3 (three) SB wins. Since the Benson Boogie train has been in place, 4 (four) years before that, 1985, iirc, the Saints have 1 (One). 3 (three) is greater than 1 (one). I won’t pick an arbitrary timeline, one of my own creation, in order to deliberately mislead folks. I’ll use the entire timeline and accomplishments by both, in their respective timelines. One set of years is “cherry picking” (yours) and the other set is unambiguously factual (mine). Unless I made an error in their ownership dates. Entirely possible, lol. “Relevancy” is a word I did not use, I used the word effective. And the reason I used effective is bc I very clearly think winning three times as many Super Bowl’s in fewer years is a more effective ownership paradigm..., that is if you use championships as the goal of each team at the beginning of each season. If you’re of the mindset that sitting around a drum circle signing folks songs is the better “goal” to determine effectiveness, then so be it. I use championships.
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