New Stadium Resolution.....

McKenzie · 07-02-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

It would take someone who lives here to know that. Thanks for speaking up.

No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here.

SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them.

Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys.

I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day.

I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too.

FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint.

p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams.

saintswhodi · 07-02-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by McKenzie

No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here.

SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them.

Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys.

I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day.

I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too.

FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint.

p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams.

When I go, i'll prob just stay with my sis, who is gonna go too. She lives a mile or so from reliant, in the medical center area. But we'll be early enough to tailgate for sure. Glad to have you aboard here!

McKenzie · 07-02-2007, 05:50 PM

Extremely glad to be here. Finally! Like I said, SR just got absurd and after the Black & Gold Nation, the official site, went down, I was just lost. I was on the B&G from 01-04, when they closed down. Being from Texas, SR got very ugly to anyone from here. I haven't had a Saints board for 2 years, so all I can do is say THANK YOU! for being around. Have to thank Google, too. That's how I found you.

I'll be at Reliant at 6am. I have a group of friends in Orange Lot that I start with, move down a ways to another group for mid-morning food, into Blue for drinks with some former commercial divers, into Platinum. Then it's gametime. After the game, it's across Kirby to Yellow lot then back to Orange. We wind things up around 6pm. I tell you what. The Houston crowd is a good substitute for the Saints Family. They took me right in. Real good people. (Except about the draft thing....LOL)

saintswhodi · 07-03-2007, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

don't confuse apples and oranges. NFL stadiums and NBA stadiums are a HUGE difference in number of fans in attendance. If anything, this throws more confusion on the issue. By your own arguement, you say that San Antonio is growing and therefore could support an NFL team. However, the facts prove otherwise. You sit there and say one of the reasons why San Antonio didn't pack the house for every Saints game is because "they were mired in one of the worst seasons in history" yet you then put up the arguement that the Hornets "benefited" from a "new fan base". Uh, last I checked, the Horntes have not even made the playoffs the last two seasons. So, that being said, why did the Saints not benefit from a "new fan base" while they were in San Antonio? Other than the first game, San Antonio provided average facilities and an average fan base. Many Saints players complained of practice facilities and the facilites as a whole. Those are the facts.

Btw, weren't the Spurs thinking of leaving San Antonio right around the time that the Hornets went to New Orleans?

*sigh* At this point, I really wish you had let this go instead of making me sift through more nonsense. Not once, not ever, not even close did I say the Hornets benefitted from a new fan base. Not once. I used them as an example of what a crappy team in a new city has to deal with when trying to make new fans cause, you know, their attendance was one of the worst in the league in New Orleans. Also taking a shot at the practice facilities is lame. Why would a city with NO PRO FOOTBALL TEAM, and that has never had a PRO FOOTBALL TEAM have state of the art practice facilities for a pro football team? Oh, they wouldn't. Unless they planned Katrina 10 years in advance and built them with the foreknowledge New Orleans would be under water and they would need state of the art facilities to lure the Saints. You beleive that's what happened right?

Just saying that though, I am gonna let this go. You haven't yet made a valid counterpoint, while also trying to totally misrepresent what I say, completely fabricate other points, and in general, just throwing stuff out to see what sticks to the wall. I see you totally ignored the your faux pas in trying to diss Spurs fans saying we didn't care about the team cause we didn't build a new arena for them, when they got a new arena just 5 years ago. Whatever your bias, it isn't helping your argument. I hope we can agree to disagree cause this is going nowhere.

saintswhodi · 07-03-2007, 09:03 AM

Was there a point in all of that? Any? I said OK city put themselves on the map when they hosted the Hornets when making a point about San An putting themselves on the map, but I also said a slumping Hornets team suffered atrocious attendance in New Orleans, when making a point about the "empty seats" in San Antonio. See the difference? Probably not.

At any rate, it's funny you get to distance yourself from Nagin, yet you hold the people of San Antonio responsible for Hardburglar. Double standard much?

Also, who would know better how the people of San An felt about the Saints being here under those circumstances, someone who lives in San An, or someone who lives 600 miles away and hates the city cause of the actions of one?

So in the midst of all this, your best bet was questioning my loyalty? I didn;t become a Spurs fan when I moved to San An, I have been a Spurs fan for 20 years, even when I lived in New Orleans. As a matter of fact, I still have a Spurs starters jacket I got in HIGH SCHOOL at Kennedy with the old spurs colors before they went to straight silver and black. But what the blue hell does that have to do with you not being a Suns fan when you lived in Phoenix? What does being a Spurs fan have to do with being a Saints fan? Are you kidding here? In case you may be unaware, New Orleans did not have a basketball team, and I was too young to know about the Jazz. I don't even remember when they left. But I actually saw David Robinson play in a game in the Lakefront Arena when I was a kid, becase a fan of his, and when he was drafted by the Spurs, I became a Spurs fan. That was 1987. That has no bearing on my loyalty to New Orleans, and it's sad your lack of relevant points had to lead you down that path. You're making this seem as if I want the Saints to leave New Orleans, which I have made extremely clear is not wha I want. Hell, I am the one pushing for them to get a new stadium so there is no doubt. But it's really unfortunate people are putting out mistruths about San An not being a viable market for a team, and my main goal is to dispel that non-truth in the hopes others don't feel the same way, and disregard the threat, shoot down a new stadium, and have the team leave.

Lastly, while we are talking about media markets, New Orleans is ranked LOWER than San An, yet they support the Saints, and have for years, ya know how? Cause, well, let's see, there are more Saints fans than in just NEW ORLEANS in the area, just like there are more football fans then in just San Antonio. Take Austin for instance, about the same distance from NO that Baton Rouge is. And since the discussions about the team were between the mayors of Austin, San An, and Laredo, I guess you can count their markets together, just like you can count markets all along the gulf coast for the Saints. It's not a simple matter of "this city ranks..." cause that doesn't tell the whole story. Unless you want to leave it as San Antonio ranking much higer than New Orleans, even before Katrina, thus showing if New Orleans can do it, San An could do it right? Simply going by a ranking that is. Just move on.

JOESAM2002 · 07-03-2007, 09:21 AM

Ok guys,this is getting far to political. Do we need to move it?

McKenzie · 07-03-2007, 02:37 PM

Just for the record, I was at all 3 Saints games and there were NOT plenty of seats open. If you want to talk about open seats in 05, take a good look at footage from Tiger Stadium. Sold out the first game. After that, it was a ghost town, especially the last game there. 2 of my best friends were there and called me from the game. It was really sad.

No one knew what would happen in New Orleans, if the team could go back. Did people want them here...yes. But, trust me, Benson wasn't mobbed by citizens and forced to think about a relocation. Most of the talk was very early on when no one knew IF New Orleans could be saved. We didn't take advantage of a natural disaster and try to steal the team. We offered them a home if theirs wasn't able to be fixed.

Nemesis · 07-12-2007, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by McKenzie

No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here.

SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them.

Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys.

I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day.

I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too.

FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint.

p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams.

I missed your responses. Thanks for your input in this thread. My sis works for ABC News in Houston. I may wander down for the game. She offered me SB tickets one year, but I would've had to miss a 3 week gig offshore. SBs are nice, but money is better. heh.

I wouldn't advise any La plates in TX these days. We aren't welcome. My sis suggested that I spread some mud on my plate, and damned if I wasn't pulled over for no reason during the wee hours. At least the trooper was polite, and sent us on our way. My sis lives in Sugarland, so I'm versed on the route to Reliant from there.

07-02-2007, 05:28 PM	#1
McKenzie Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26	Originally Posted by saintswhodi It would take someone who lives here to know that. Thanks for speaking up. No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here. SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them. Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys. I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day. I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too. FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint. p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams.
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07-02-2007, 05:38 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by McKenzie No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here. SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them. Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys. I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day. I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too. FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint. p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams. When I go, i'll prob just stay with my sis, who is gonna go too. She lives a mile or so from reliant, in the medical center area. But we'll be early enough to tailgate for sure. Glad to have you aboard here!

07-02-2007, 05:50 PM	#3
McKenzie Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26	Extremely glad to be here. Finally! Like I said, SR just got absurd and after the Black & Gold Nation, the official site, went down, I was just lost. I was on the B&G from 01-04, when they closed down. Being from Texas, SR got very ugly to anyone from here. I haven't had a Saints board for 2 years, so all I can do is say THANK YOU! for being around. Have to thank Google, too. That's how I found you. I'll be at Reliant at 6am. I have a group of friends in Orange Lot that I start with, move down a ways to another group for mid-morning food, into Blue for drinks with some former commercial divers, into Platinum. Then it's gametime. After the game, it's across Kirby to Yellow lot then back to Orange. We wind things up around 6pm. I tell you what. The Houston crowd is a good substitute for the Saints Family. They took me right in. Real good people. (Except about the draft thing....LOL)
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07-03-2007, 08:17 AM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by saintsmissile don't confuse apples and oranges. NFL stadiums and NBA stadiums are a HUGE difference in number of fans in attendance. If anything, this throws more confusion on the issue. By your own arguement, you say that San Antonio is growing and therefore could support an NFL team. However, the facts prove otherwise. You sit there and say one of the reasons why San Antonio didn't pack the house for every Saints game is because "they were mired in one of the worst seasons in history" yet you then put up the arguement that the Hornets "benefited" from a "new fan base". Uh, last I checked, the Horntes have not even made the playoffs the last two seasons. So, that being said, why did the Saints not benefit from a "new fan base" while they were in San Antonio? Other than the first game, San Antonio provided average facilities and an average fan base. Many Saints players complained of practice facilities and the facilites as a whole. Those are the facts. Btw, weren't the Spurs thinking of leaving San Antonio right around the time that the Hornets went to New Orleans? sigh At this point, I really wish you had let this go instead of making me sift through more nonsense. Not once, not ever, not even close did I say the Hornets benefitted from a new fan base. Not once. I used them as an example of what a crappy team in a new city has to deal with when trying to make new fans cause, you know, their attendance was one of the worst in the league in New Orleans. Also taking a shot at the practice facilities is lame. Why would a city with NO PRO FOOTBALL TEAM, and that has never had a PRO FOOTBALL TEAM have state of the art practice facilities for a pro football team? Oh, they wouldn't. Unless they planned Katrina 10 years in advance and built them with the foreknowledge New Orleans would be under water and they would need state of the art facilities to lure the Saints. You beleive that's what happened right? Just saying that though, I am gonna let this go. You haven't yet made a valid counterpoint, while also trying to totally misrepresent what I say, completely fabricate other points, and in general, just throwing stuff out to see what sticks to the wall. I see you totally ignored the your faux pas in trying to diss Spurs fans saying we didn't care about the team cause we didn't build a new arena for them, when they got a new arena just 5 years ago. Whatever your bias, it isn't helping your argument. I hope we can agree to disagree cause this is going nowhere.

07-03-2007, 09:03 AM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Was there a point in all of that? Any? I said OK city put themselves on the map when they hosted the Hornets when making a point about San An putting themselves on the map, but I also said a slumping Hornets team suffered atrocious attendance in New Orleans, when making a point about the "empty seats" in San Antonio. See the difference? Probably not. At any rate, it's funny you get to distance yourself from Nagin, yet you hold the people of San Antonio responsible for Hardburglar. Double standard much? Also, who would know better how the people of San An felt about the Saints being here under those circumstances, someone who lives in San An, or someone who lives 600 miles away and hates the city cause of the actions of one? So in the midst of all this, your best bet was questioning my loyalty? I didn;t become a Spurs fan when I moved to San An, I have been a Spurs fan for 20 years, even when I lived in New Orleans. As a matter of fact, I still have a Spurs starters jacket I got in HIGH SCHOOL at Kennedy with the old spurs colors before they went to straight silver and black. But what the blue hell does that have to do with you not being a Suns fan when you lived in Phoenix? What does being a Spurs fan have to do with being a Saints fan? Are you kidding here? In case you may be unaware, New Orleans did not have a basketball team, and I was too young to know about the Jazz. I don't even remember when they left. But I actually saw David Robinson play in a game in the Lakefront Arena when I was a kid, becase a fan of his, and when he was drafted by the Spurs, I became a Spurs fan. That was 1987. That has no bearing on my loyalty to New Orleans, and it's sad your lack of relevant points had to lead you down that path. You're making this seem as if I want the Saints to leave New Orleans, which I have made extremely clear is not wha I want. Hell, I am the one pushing for them to get a new stadium so there is no doubt. But it's really unfortunate people are putting out mistruths about San An not being a viable market for a team, and my main goal is to dispel that non-truth in the hopes others don't feel the same way, and disregard the threat, shoot down a new stadium, and have the team leave. Lastly, while we are talking about media markets, New Orleans is ranked LOWER than San An, yet they support the Saints, and have for years, ya know how? Cause, well, let's see, there are more Saints fans than in just NEW ORLEANS in the area, just like there are more football fans then in just San Antonio. Take Austin for instance, about the same distance from NO that Baton Rouge is. And since the discussions about the team were between the mayors of Austin, San An, and Laredo, I guess you can count their markets together, just like you can count markets all along the gulf coast for the Saints. It's not a simple matter of "this city ranks..." cause that doesn't tell the whole story. Unless you want to leave it as San Antonio ranking much higer than New Orleans, even before Katrina, thus showing if New Orleans can do it, San An could do it right? Simply going by a ranking that is. Just move on.
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07-03-2007, 09:21 AM	#6
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Ok guys,this is getting far to political. Do we need to move it?

07-03-2007, 02:37 PM	#7
McKenzie Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26	Just for the record, I was at all 3 Saints games and there were NOT plenty of seats open. If you want to talk about open seats in 05, take a good look at footage from Tiger Stadium. Sold out the first game. After that, it was a ghost town, especially the last game there. 2 of my best friends were there and called me from the game. It was really sad. No one knew what would happen in New Orleans, if the team could go back. Did people want them here...yes. But, trust me, Benson wasn't mobbed by citizens and forced to think about a relocation. Most of the talk was very early on when no one knew IF New Orleans could be saved. We didn't take advantage of a natural disaster and try to steal the team. We offered them a home if theirs wasn't able to be fixed.
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07-12-2007, 07:39 PM	#8
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by McKenzie No problem. I'm pretty frank on message boards. Expect me to be quite involved here. SA was very proud to host the Saints. We took very good care of a team and organization in utter chaos. That schedule for 13 road games really did a number on them. 8-8 in 04 to 3-13 in 05. It was heartbreaking, but I was there for the 3 we had, spent a ton of bucks on shirts and stuff, taught people how to tailgate, took people who had never been to a pro game, not even Dallas, turned them away from being Dallas fans, and actually made friends with a couple who I met out and about in the city. I recall a Spurs game that Aaron Brooks attended with his family. The camera guys found him and blasted him up on the jumbotron. The At&T Center exploded in applause for him. He looked so shocked. See, most people in SA knew nothing of booing the Saints or wearing paper bags. We hardly got any coverage of the Saints here, so people just didn't know them. Now they do and the Cowboys lost themselves a bunch of followers. You can buy more Saints stuff in SA than you can Texans. If you want Texans stuff, you need to order it online. It's scarse. I go with a group of friends on certain game days to a sports bar that has 4 big screens. They reserve one for the Saints. Always. They never get a smaller TV. And you should see all they people in Saints gear watching them....not the Cowboys. I can't wait to be in Houston on Nov 18th. I got my seats from a friend who is now a Texan cheerleader and she already knows that I'll wear my fleur de lis that day. I'll go to Dallas when the new place opens and the Saints play them. I want to see that monster, too. FYI..if you can get the Holiday Inn Reliant, ask for a room with the view. It's all lit up at night and just gorgeous. And, you walk out the back door into the parking lot. Head to the left of Reliant to the Orange and Blue lots and just start talking to people. They'll feed you, offer beer. They really know how to throw it down. They are also very classy and won't hassle you for being a Saint. p.s. What ever you do, DON'T wear your Reggie jersey. They are still pretty upset over that draft. They wanted VY, but would have taken Reggie over Williams. I missed your responses. Thanks for your input in this thread. My sis works for ABC News in Houston. I may wander down for the game. She offered me SB tickets one year, but I would've had to miss a 3 week gig offshore. SBs are nice, but money is better. heh. I wouldn't advise any La plates in TX these days. We aren't welcome. My sis suggested that I spread some mud on my plate, and damned if I wasn't pulled over for no reason during the wee hours. At least the trooper was polite, and sent us on our way. My sis lives in Sugarland, so I'm versed on the route to Reliant from there.
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